Comments on: Lip Oedema and Vibration Training http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/ An evidence-based forum about whole body vibration and the true health, wellness and fitness benefits of this technology. Sat, 04 Feb 2012 18:04:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Cat http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-2327 Cat Thu, 23 Sep 2010 23:51:06 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-2327 My God, I have read so many comments about this dubious subject all over the net for over a week. I too am looking to purchase a Vib Machine and I can not seem to access a pdf file containing recommendations for home use (although I do have an idea of what NOT to buy). I suffer hormonal fluid retention which turns me into a sponge from day to day. I have been using an electric hand massager with amazing results and think the next step would be Vibe. Id like to use it for lymph flow/fluid as well as fitness (if i can afford it). I am 40. There seem to be a couple of machines I can not find any comments on (I'm in Australia), one is HYPERVIBE http://www.hypervibe.com.au/ and the other is http://www.wbv.net.au/ WBV-3000: OTO FLABeLOS http://www.otobodycare.com/sg/english/product.cfm?productid=7C503810-CA2F-97FE-E01041ADB5D93F94 Any comments about either of these would be greatly appreciated / helpful and any recommendations anyone could make would also be great. I am trying to find something that isn't top of the range as i can not afford it but one that i am not getting completely ripped off with... Please help! Cat My God, I have read so many comments about this dubious subject all over the net for over a week. I too am looking to purchase a Vib Machine and I can not seem to access a pdf file containing recommendations for home use (although I do have an idea of what NOT to buy).

I suffer hormonal fluid retention which turns me into a sponge from day to day. I have been using an electric hand massager with amazing results and think the next step would be Vibe. Id like to use it for lymph flow/fluid as well as fitness (if i can afford it). I am 40.

There seem to be a couple of machines I can not find any comments on (I’m in Australia), one is HYPERVIBE http://www.hypervibe.com.au/ and the other is http://www.wbv.net.au/ WBV-3000: OTO FLABeLOS http://www.otobodycare.com/sg/english/product.cfm?productid=7C503810-CA2F-97FE-E01041ADB5D93F94

Any comments about either of these would be greatly appreciated / helpful and any recommendations anyone could make would also be great. I am trying to find something that isn’t top of the range as i can not afford it but one that i am not getting completely ripped off with…

Please help!

Cat

]]> By: lois jones http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-2123 lois jones Tue, 07 Sep 2010 15:38:27 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-2123 am interested i one of these machines but not for thousand dollars is their any that works for a low price am interested i one of these machines but not for thousand dollars is their any that works for a low price

]]> By: ravewave http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1953 ravewave Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:26:18 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1953 Wave vibration exercise is made in Canada. I personally have 3 of them and my customers have wonderful results. Check them out. They have a vibration stuido as well as a manufacturing plant in Canada. I have had nothing but a wonderful experience with the machines, and have many testimonials from clients that I would be more than happy to share with you. Good luck! Wave vibration exercise is made in Canada. I personally have 3 of them and my customers have wonderful results. Check them out. They have a vibration stuido as well as a manufacturing plant in Canada. I have had nothing but a wonderful experience with the machines, and have many testimonials from clients that I would be more than happy to share with you. Good luck!

]]> By: Gabriel Ettenson http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1937 Gabriel Ettenson Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:05:22 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1937 Jackie, to be clear, I should add that you will likely reach your goals on any of the platforms. The amplitude differs for these platforms and that may be important to consider for your husbands goals. That is why I am asking for that info. Jackie, to be clear, I should add that you will likely reach your goals on any of the platforms. The amplitude differs for these platforms and that may be important to consider for your husbands goals. That is why I am asking for that info.

]]> By: Gabriel Ettenson http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1936 Gabriel Ettenson Thu, 22 Jul 2010 17:01:55 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1936 I am unsure about the conversion to the US dollar, but I think it is quite close. Given what you have told me about your age, health status etc., I would suggest the DKN XG10 (4k), Vibraflex (Galileo platform's name in the US) HE2 ($4600 - Pivotal and reviewed on that site), or the Hypergravity Personal Deluxe (unsure about the price, but think it is in your range). The Vibrogym reviewed on that site is the Evolution model and retails around 10-12k I believe. They all have plus' and minus' versus each other, but all are reliable and seem appropriate for you both. One last question...What are your HUSBANDS goals? Does he want to enhance his muscle tone, try and build mass, or just complement his existing program? I hate to make this so complicated, but you are spending good money and should have the absolute most ideal platform that can allow both of you to reach your individual goals while also progressing your program. If you want to speak further, email me through my site www.equilibriumpt.com. Otherwise, let me know here on this blog and perhaps we can reach a final conclusion. I am unsure about the conversion to the US dollar, but I think it is quite close. Given what you have told me about your age, health status etc., I would suggest the DKN XG10 (4k), Vibraflex (Galileo platform’s name in the US) HE2 ($4600 – Pivotal and reviewed on that site), or the Hypergravity Personal Deluxe (unsure about the price, but think it is in your range). The Vibrogym reviewed on that site is the Evolution model and retails around 10-12k I believe.

They all have plus’ and minus’ versus each other, but all are reliable and seem appropriate for you both. One last question…What are your HUSBANDS goals? Does he want to enhance his muscle tone, try and build mass, or just complement his existing program? I hate to make this so complicated, but you are spending good money and should have the absolute most ideal platform that can allow both of you to reach your individual goals while also progressing your program. If you want to speak further, email me through my site http://www.equilibriumpt.com. Otherwise, let me know here on this blog and perhaps we can reach a final conclusion.

]]> By: Movado http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1935 Movado Wed, 21 Jul 2010 14:24:23 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1935 I am 38 and my husband is 33 going on 18. I am not that active, although if we go back 4 years ago I would in line skate 3-4 times a week for 1hr. My husband lifts weights 2 times a week and runs on our treadmill 4 times a week. We both have a clean bill of health with no injuries. I don't want crap but I do want a good product between $3500-$4500 Can $$. I was on this site gathering most of my info. http://www.vibrationtrainingdevice.com/ any views it seems to make sense and it is very in depth. Thanks for your input. Jackie I am 38 and my husband is 33 going on 18. I am not that active, although if we go back 4 years ago I would in line skate 3-4 times a week for 1hr. My husband lifts weights 2 times a week and runs on our treadmill 4 times a week. We both have a clean bill of health with no injuries. I don’t want crap but I do want a good product between $3500-$4500 Can $$. I was on this site gathering most of my info. http://www.vibrationtrainingdevice.com/ any views it seems to make sense and it is very in depth. Thanks for your input.

Jackie

]]> By: Gabriel Ettenson http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1934 Gabriel Ettenson Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:15:05 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1934 Movado, G-Force or accleration, although important, are not the most important features when choosing a platform. What is of utmost importance is your intended usage. Can you giev a little more information on your ages, medical histories, experience with fitness in general. Both the VG and the DKN are solid platforms, but differ in their usage as the VG is classified as a training platform while the DKN is a therapy platform. Both have value, but the limits of the platform can differ. The research can be overwhelming, but that is why this site exists, to help decipher the mystery of it all. Unfortunately, we are still waiting for all the kinks to be worked out on the new site. Movado,

G-Force or accleration, although important, are not the most important features when choosing a platform. What is of utmost importance is your intended usage. Can you giev a little more information on your ages, medical histories, experience with fitness in general. Both the VG and the DKN are solid platforms, but differ in their usage as the VG is classified as a training platform while the DKN is a therapy platform. Both have value, but the limits of the platform can differ. The research can be overwhelming, but that is why this site exists, to help decipher the mystery of it all. Unfortunately, we are still waiting for all the kinks to be worked out on the new site.

]]> By: Movado http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1933 Movado Mon, 19 Jul 2010 12:00:11 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1933 I am having a hard time deciding on a WBV platform. I have gone into research overload. If I could get some input from some of the more knowledgable it would be greatly appreciated. Is the G-Load or acceleration one of the most important elements to look for in choosing a WBV machine. It is for both me and my husband general overal fitness. He is still into sports and very athletic. I am in Canada and have tried the Vibrogym, DKN, T-ZONE(dont want). The price to value seems very good on the DKN X10. Am I missing something out there that I should be considering in the $3500-$4500 range. Thanks Jackie I am having a hard time deciding on a WBV platform. I have gone into research overload. If I could get some input from some of the more knowledgable it would be greatly appreciated. Is the G-Load or acceleration one of the most important elements to look for in choosing a WBV machine. It is for both me and my husband general overal fitness. He is still into sports and very athletic. I am in Canada and have tried the Vibrogym, DKN, T-ZONE(dont want). The price to value seems very good on the DKN X10. Am I missing something out there that I should be considering in the $3500-$4500 range. Thanks

Jackie

]]> By: rebmor http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1932 rebmor Fri, 16 Jul 2010 22:04:05 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1932 I have used WBV successfully to ease the pain associated with lipedema (and with knee arthritis). Although the product was advertised as helping with weight loss, I have not noticed a loss of lipedemic fat, but I may not have used it consistently enough for long enough to notice that kind of difference. Could you please tell me more about your use of ultrasonic treatment to implode fat cells? Thanks ... I have used WBV successfully to ease the pain associated with lipedema (and with knee arthritis). Although the product was advertised as helping with weight loss, I have not noticed a loss of lipedemic fat, but I may not have used it consistently enough for long enough to notice that kind of difference.

Could you please tell me more about your use of ultrasonic treatment to implode fat cells?

Thanks …

]]> By: BOH22 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2010/07/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training/#comment-1931 BOH22 Wed, 14 Jul 2010 23:21:37 +0000 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/?p=725#comment-1931 From a nursing perspective, I would agree with you that liposuction is an extreme measure! Although I have not seen any cases of lipedema, I will share with you my husbands case of lymph congestion. I have a feeling the two are very closely related from your explanation of fat getting "stuck" in your legs and arms. Over a year ago, my husband had a small lump appear behind his right ear. Over the next six months it spread out slightly, so we began treating with castor oil packs. It showed some immediate downward movement, but then stopped. I happened upon this sight while looking into rebounding. Rebounding has been noted to aid in lymphatic drainage. As I read through this site and from further discussion with those in the field, Gabriel included, I became convinced that WBV would be an excellent type of therapy to aid the lymph system. We began researching the different brands of WBV machines and hope to soon make our decision based on what is available in the USA. Since we don't have access to a machine at this point, my husband has been rebounding 20-40 minutes a day. The lump is softening! Let me tell you we are pretty excited! But the best thing is this, WBV is definitely superior! From my understanding vibration therapy is like rebounders on steroids. Vibration therapy does 40x more for your body in one second than what a rebounder can do in the same amount of time. The key here, in my opinion, is that vibration therapy moves lymph! And again, in my opinion, moving lymph is very crucial in healing the body of disease. Best to you as you seek to regain your health! Brenda From a nursing perspective, I would agree with you that liposuction is an extreme measure! Although I have not seen any cases of lipedema, I will share with you my husbands case of lymph congestion. I have a feeling the two are very closely related from your explanation of fat getting “stuck” in your legs and arms.

Over a year ago, my husband had a small lump appear behind his right ear. Over the next six months it spread out slightly, so we began treating with castor oil packs. It showed some immediate downward movement, but then stopped. I happened upon this sight while looking into rebounding. Rebounding has been noted to aid in lymphatic drainage. As I read through this site and from further discussion with those in the field, Gabriel included, I became convinced that WBV would be an excellent type of therapy to aid the lymph system.

We began researching the different brands of WBV machines and hope to soon make our decision based on what is available in the USA. Since we don’t have access to a machine at this point, my husband has been rebounding 20-40 minutes a day. The lump is softening! Let me tell you we are pretty excited! But the best thing is this, WBV is definitely superior! From my understanding vibration therapy is like rebounders on steroids. Vibration therapy does 40x more for your body in one second than what a rebounder can do in the same amount of time. The key here, in my opinion, is that vibration therapy moves lymph! And again, in my opinion, moving lymph is very crucial in healing the body of disease.

Best to you as you seek to regain your health!

Brenda

]]>