May 23, 2018

Turning a New Leaf at VibrationTraining.net

As you already have noticed, there have been some significant changes at VibrationTraining.net.  I thought it would be a good idea to start off with a brief introduction of myself and some ideas about where I would like to see this website go in the future.  Some of you have already commented on the look of the site.  A stodgy,  more conservative look was chosen for a reason.  The subject matter of this website is very serious, and to be taken serious it is helpful to have a website that looks more conservative, even if it is boring.  What we want is for the information, the articles, the content, the comments, to take center stage, and a boring design doesn’t distract attention from that.

For those of you who were concerned about VibrationTraining.net being bought by an industry insider with an agenda, please set that concern aside. The website was bought by Peter Davis who is a professional web developer and online community builder. The primary goal is going to be growing the site into a community platform where all interested parties, whether industry insiders, consumers, the media, or anyone for that matter, can exchange ideas and learn about vibration training, therapy, as well as the products and service providers in the industry.

As well as re0pening comments, we will be adding new interactive features to the website in the near future.  Also, you are encouraged to contact me if you are interested in having an article published on the site.  We are actively seeking new and interesting items and information about the field to publish, whether articles, photos, video or other types of media.  If you cannot use the site’s contact form, you can email me at [email protected]

Thanks!

Comments

  1. Congratulations on the new start… quite some dead links though…

    I have been going through quite some old posts and wanted to drop yet another question, however found only this general blog to post it in, the others seem dead for now… so please excuse me for dropping it here…

    I am a 38 year old female, being diagnosed lip oedema last year. This is a disease that causes fat to get stuck locally, especially in the legs and for some also in the arms. This disease is not to be confused with lymph oedema, which is a disease of the lymphatic system. However lip oedema can evolve into lymph oedema if not treated. Unfotunately the only treatment for lip oedema seems to be pressure or liposuction.

    Liposuction seems too extreme to me, especially with the lymph oedema risk and therefore I have found an alternative solution in ultrasonic treatment which appears to implode fat cells. In order to help the fat drainage, I am looking to buy a vibration training machine. So in short this machine would be for vibro training purposes and more specifically fat reducing. At first I had a professional Power Plate in mind, but because of the high price I have taken my time to think about it and luckily I ran into this website.

    Can anyone help me answering following questions:
    1. is it sure that lip oedema is not a contra-indication for whole body vibration???
    2. if Q1 is OK, can vibro training be of help in my specific case to have local fat reduction (legs) + overall fat reduction too
    3. what would be a good machine for personal use, knowing that I live in Belgium: so far I have found ‘body coach’ and ‘Lumen’ by Body Coach of Punch Int., Wave (if so, where to get it in Belgium) -> will these machines work for me or else can you advise another make?

    Lip oedema is not that well known here in Belgium (don’t know for the ROW), so I would be so happy to get some advise on this…

  2. Hi Margo, I have posted your question in a separate article so hopefully it would get some attention from the experts.

    http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2009/08/lip-oedema-and-vibration-training

  3. Just discovered this site and it is great resource to get up to speed and cut thru so much hype. There were unfortunately many dead links (dreaded 404 errors) so look forward to re-visiting them when fixed.
    My question, I would love members’ Point of View on:
    1. Nitrofit Deluxe and Personal
    2. DZT Ultra Vibe V7000 Light Industrial and the Industrial Unit.
    3. Is Nitrofit Deluxe same as HyperVibe? They look same.

    I am looking for good therapy system and regimen (have numerous disk herniations, lower back and neck,hip,sciatic pain. I would also like to build strength/muscles/metabolism as I have been inactive for quite some time with the above problems and unable to exercise much without alot of pain. Yes, fat/cellulite reduction would be much desired. This would be for home, but on a cost does matter since I am on disability income only. Any good sources for used equipment? I am in S. Florida, USA. Thanks.

  4. I am not particularly familiar with the nitrofit or the dzt ultravibe, but the one thing they have in common is a reasonable pricetag. The DZT being much cheaper than the the nitrofit. Unfortunately, in the vibration training industry this usually translates into poorer quality and lost energy; energy that your body should be absorbing and benefiting from.

    Given your location and interest in a pivotal platform, consider looking into the vibraflex. They are manufactured in Germany, but distributed in Southern Florida. They have plenty of research behind them including the most recent studies with spinal cord injury. More info at vibraflex.com.

    Hope that helps.

  5. Hello Lisa,

    A website reviewed and ranked most of the available vibration trainers in the U.S. One of the reviewers came out to the Health and Fitness Business trade show this year and physically used vibration plates from Nitrofit, PowerPlate, Wave, DKN, Tuetonic, PowerVibe, Lifespan,and a few others.

    Our NitroFit Personal was ranked the best vibration trainer for under $1,000

    HEAD OF THE CLASS – WINNER – Vibration Trainers (WBV) under $1,000
    you can check out the review by following the links below.
    http://www.fitnessprofessorreview.com/reviews/review.php?id=726

    Given your financial situation this may be a viable solution for you. But before you jump into anything do some primary research and consult with your doctor first. Your doctor may not be familiar with WBV becasue it is still very new to the medical community in the United States.

    If that is the case I would hold off on buying any machine until you can find a fitness store near you that carries a good selection of vibration machines. Try both pivotal and lineal vibration machines to see what is comfortable for you.

  6. Nitrofit,

    Congrats on the positive review. I am wondering whether that site you linked has an explanation of what those categories represent specifically and how did they reach the conclusions/numbers. I am unclear how these reviews are demonstrating anything more than what the machines look like (to the reviewers), how big they are, or how many exercises can be done on them. For example, what does “ergonomics” or “motivation” mean?

    This is a machine that relies on it’s engineering to perform properly. A squat on one does not feel the same nor create the same bodily response as a squat on an inferiorly designed platform. Where is the data on the performance of the machines themselves (i.e. accelerometer readings, emg reading etc.) Did the “review board” do anything other than stand on them and look at them to create these reviews. Do they even have experience using themm? I cannot see how these reviews indicate the actual perfomance of the machine and are therefore completely unreliable. Please let me know what I am missing.

  7. Gabriel,
    Im not sure im the right person to answer all of these questions for you. I would e-mail them and ask. I just receieved the review on Monday and thought I would share the link. Keep in mind that this is strictly the view of that website and that they grade prducts that mostly only available through specialty retailers.

    Look at the site again because Im fairly certain that there is a glossary of terms that explains what each grading criteria means. Could you specify exactly what certification makes someone an “expert” in WBV? From what I can tell they are just an independant reveiw board comparing and contrasting close to a hundred products including treadmills, ellipticals,and inversion tables that a customer would see when shopping at specialty retail fitness stores . My guess is that their intentions are similar to sites like this one, just trying to advise consumers of what products they liked.

    I believe their intention was

  8. Gabriel- I received this e-mail from fitnessprofessorreveiw.com late last week regarding your questions about thier site. I hope this answers your questions.

    “Jon,
    Further to the posting on vibrationtraining.net we thought it may be helpful to explain Fit Prof and our reviews in general;

    “All fitness equipment relies on both its engineering / design as well as it production quality. All machines by their nature are subject to performance issues and a single unit test is not a fair assessment of a brand’s overall quality. To accomplish that, a large number units from multiple production runs would be need to be tested using real world parameters for extensive periods of time. To date, we are unaware of any review that follows this type of testing protocol.

    With regards to the scoring / category question on WBVs: Ergonomics are based on the unit’s characteristics such as platform size, step up height, handle bar height, size, placement, etc. Motivation is based on the unit’s electronic features and programming as well as items such as the availability of resistance cords, on board exercise charts, etc.

    Fitness Professor Review.com was created to be the most complete, unbiased and independent source for equipment reviews. We believe we have achieved this goal and continue to expand our review offering to better assist consumers find quality products to help them achieve their health and fitness goals. This is why we introduced a WBV section this season.

    That said, reviews (regardless of their source) are based on the experience, research and opinions of the individuals involved. This is why Fitness Professor Review.com always recommends consumers use multiple sources of information AND to try machines prior to purchase. For more information about Fitness Professor Review.com, please visit our Ask the Prof section.”

    We hope this answer any questions you may have had
    All the best”

  9. Hello i’m not sure I’m posting this in the right place. Could you tell me what category the Sirius Vibra Core falls into and if it’s any good. Also wondering about the T-Zone? I’m wanting this for weightloss and to fight osteoporosis. I have a bad knee , so moderate to heavy workouts are out of the question.
    Thanx

  10. egeneratrix says:

    Just investigating this now. Looking for therapy to help with carpal tunnel and some trigger finger issues. Have used ultrasound with some success. Are there vibration products for localized use? … for the arm, hands etc

  11. You have three options:

    1) the vibraflex mini – upper body unit (www.vibraflex.com)

    2) using upper body positioning on a standard vibration platform to target the muscles of the hand and forearm

    3) purchasing a string handheld percussion vibrator and using along those same muscle groups.

    The last option is probably the cheapest and safest. I am not sure where you are, but over here in the US, brookstone makes some really strong percussion vibrators that will likely do the trick.

    • Gabriel,

      I got your name from our friends at HyperVibe Canada. We have a studio in Eastern Canada using VibraFlex/Galileo and HyperVibe oscillating vibration training as well as Wave for lineal vibration. Working the muscles which involve gravity directly through pushing (e.g. squat or chest press) is great but working the back or pulling exercise we have to revert back to traditional resistance training. you mentioned the vibraflex mini in an earlier post and I was wondering if you use it yourself and how you find it. I have tried it out but unless you use it more often it would be hard to feel the results.

      Thanks,
      Kirk

  12. Barb,

    The machines you mentioned are unfamiliar to me, but the bottom line in this industry is that the price generally reflects the quality of the machine and these are quite inexpensive. So many of these manufacturers produce garbage by manufacturing inexpensively in China. If you are trying to make changes to your body, you need a quality, durable platform. The better the materials and design, the more pure the energy being transferred from it and the better the response of your body. Expect to spend 3-5K, but it will be well worth it..especially given the situation with your knee. By the way, I treat knee OA all the time and the response is phenomenal with vibration therapy and training when applied safely.

    Hope that helps.

  13. Bea,

    For some reason, I cannot respond in the section you posted. This site is a bit difficult to navigate at times. I hope you get this post.

    Taking on the task of opening a studio with no experience is a big risk. I can appreciate the desire, but recommend speaking with another studio owner first. Contact Phillipa Church at http://www.resonancevt.co.uk/.

    She is a highly qulaified business owner and a real nice person. She will help you along. You can say I recommended her to you. I think this will prove a very valuable experience.

    As far as platforms go, for commercial usage, you need solid platforms. Otherwise, they and you will fail. The machines you are looking at will be a very bad decision. They are inexpensive and cheaply manufactured. For commercial usage, you are looking at one of only a few manufacturers and you can expect to spend 7-10K per unit.

    Hope that helps.

    Gabriel

  14. Steve Forsberg says:

    I bought a BodyShaker Junior from the Netherlands last year for my wife, for therapy purposes. Tragically, her health failed and she passed away last month. I need whatever advice you can provide on where I might find potential buyers for this essentially brand new machine. It was very expensive but rugged, and appears adaquate for commercial use. Can you suggest any Trade Journals that serve this fitness studio industry in the United States?

  15. dan pelletier says:

    Hi Steve,

    I will say, the machines performance capabilities have been discussed positively in the community. I have had the pleasure of talking with them myself.

    The cost of a quality lineal platform make them a little more difficult to sell in the North American market right now. Not many people have actually tried a decent high energy lineal machine and for many the experience is much more intense than they may have experienced before and if there used to shopping for or trying pivotal platforms they usually stand to straight and don’t like the resonant vibrations felt upwards throughout the body usually ending up at the top of the head. Proper angles and pose protocols are very important when using high energy lineal machines.

    Putting this out here is a good start. You can list on Kijiji as well, I have come accross quite a few used platforms that are listed there. See if there are any studios locally, if there well informed they will know the brand and possibly understand the value in the price.

    Send me a note as I may come accross individuals who are looking for a good quality lineal unit and I will send them your way.

    Good Luck and I’m very sorry to hear about your wife.

    Our Very Best,

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