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	<title>Comments on: Warning to Home Users: Here&#8217;s How You Are Getting Cheated</title>
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		<title>By: TrainerBabe</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1957</link>
		<dc:creator>TrainerBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 09:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look on Wiki and read about platform types.
   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole-body_vibration</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look on Wiki and read about platform types.<br />
   <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole-body_vibration" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole-body_vibration</a></p>
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		<title>By: TrainerBabe</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1956</link>
		<dc:creator>TrainerBabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jul 2010 08:59:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gym form vibromax machines are a rip off.  You can buy them off trademe from dissatisfied people for as low as $40 . They also go by the name of crazyfit and other weird names. Same factory in China makes them.
Find a cplace that does not sell machines and ask for their advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gym form vibromax machines are a rip off.  You can buy them off trademe from dissatisfied people for as low as $40 . They also go by the name of crazyfit and other weird names. Same factory in China makes them.<br />
Find a cplace that does not sell machines and ask for their advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Luzal</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1954</link>
		<dc:creator>Luzal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The gym form vibra max has just been advertised on New Zealand TV with the usual sales pitch. Does anyone have any info good or bad on this  particular product. I don&#039;t want my desperation to loose weight to cloud my judgement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gym form vibra max has just been advertised on New Zealand TV with the usual sales pitch. Does anyone have any info good or bad on this  particular product. I don&#8217;t want my desperation to loose weight to cloud my judgement.</p>
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		<title>By: S.K</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>S.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jul 2010 21:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone here owned a Galileo for a while. How durable are they ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone here owned a Galileo for a while. How durable are they ?</p>
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		<title>By: S.K</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1947</link>
		<dc:creator>S.K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jul 2010 03:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found this invaluable in explaining the difference in all the machines around  http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews

I am not good with machinery at the best of times :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found this invaluable in explaining the difference in all the machines around  <a href="http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews" rel="nofollow">http://www.vibration-training-advice.com/machine-reviews</a></p>
<p>I am not good with machinery at the best of times <img src='http://www.vibrationtraining.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1234</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 02:13:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Crazy-Fit machines are cheap junk made to look like the real thing. And all they do is need to make it Pivotal from side to side to fool most people.

The &quot;feeling&quot; something was missing...

On the Vibra-Flex/Galileo &quot;Premium Speed Pivotal&quot;  the machine was going over a certain speed threshold that allows &quot;training&quot; to take place. The Crazy-Fit type units are going fast enough to seem like a vibration but on a physics basis simply are not doing enough.

This is a very contentious issue with sellers of cheap slow machines with their only defense being &quot;prove mine are not as good&quot; showing a complete lack of respect for us designers. And they will tell you that you imagined the difference.

Trust me , even if 100 studies were released showing they were not as good, they will never give you your money back and it is a waste of your time and money now.

Crazy-Fit gym....?

The machines cost $80 to buy in China, the &quot;gyms&quot; are just showrooms to shift stock which soon pack up and move once sales drop.

Static workouts... ( as in multiple poses not just standing there )

Yes you can get great results from &quot;not moving&quot; , that&#039;s because you are moving, just not voluntarily. In fact you may not be getting all the results you could because you are moving and it might do you damage over a long period of time..

You must be aware that allot of trainers just throw in &quot;traditional&quot; moves on these platforms to cover up their lack of education into &quot;involuntary reflexes&quot;. If any of them say the static program is useless, they are amateurs. Trust me you will die doing a regular static safety program.

Not sore the next day....? Read this....

 http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/08/delayed-muscle-soreness-and-vibration-training</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Crazy-Fit machines are cheap junk made to look like the real thing. And all they do is need to make it Pivotal from side to side to fool most people.</p>
<p>The &#8220;feeling&#8221; something was missing&#8230;</p>
<p>On the Vibra-Flex/Galileo &#8220;Premium Speed Pivotal&#8221;  the machine was going over a certain speed threshold that allows &#8220;training&#8221; to take place. The Crazy-Fit type units are going fast enough to seem like a vibration but on a physics basis simply are not doing enough.</p>
<p>This is a very contentious issue with sellers of cheap slow machines with their only defense being &#8220;prove mine are not as good&#8221; showing a complete lack of respect for us designers. And they will tell you that you imagined the difference.</p>
<p>Trust me , even if 100 studies were released showing they were not as good, they will never give you your money back and it is a waste of your time and money now.</p>
<p>Crazy-Fit gym&#8230;.?</p>
<p>The machines cost $80 to buy in China, the &#8220;gyms&#8221; are just showrooms to shift stock which soon pack up and move once sales drop.</p>
<p>Static workouts&#8230; ( as in multiple poses not just standing there )</p>
<p>Yes you can get great results from &#8220;not moving&#8221; , that&#8217;s because you are moving, just not voluntarily. In fact you may not be getting all the results you could because you are moving and it might do you damage over a long period of time..</p>
<p>You must be aware that allot of trainers just throw in &#8220;traditional&#8221; moves on these platforms to cover up their lack of education into &#8220;involuntary reflexes&#8221;. If any of them say the static program is useless, they are amateurs. Trust me you will die doing a regular static safety program.</p>
<p>Not sore the next day&#8230;.? Read this&#8230;.</p>
<p> <a href="http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/08/delayed-muscle-soreness-and-vibration-training" rel="nofollow">http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/08/delayed-muscle-soreness-and-vibration-training</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sophia</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1147</link>
		<dc:creator>Sophia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 19:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lloyd

Some months I found a Vibraflex gym and I tried it... I was delighted, they are marvelous machines! But sadly, the gym closed. Know I am looking for something similar. I just found a Crazy Fitness gym. I also tried it and noticed that the machines are kind of different and the vibration do feels different. So, I have some questions:
1) Could you please tell me if Crazy Fitness machines are effective and secure?
2) With vibraflex, we did different exercises with weight lifting, elastic bands,etc., but with crazy fitness you just stand at the machine in different positions... does that is effective? I can&#039;t belive that just standing there can help. I expected to feel my muscles hurt a little the day after, but I felt nothing.
3) I have the opportunity to do other kind of exercise, such as body combat and dance lessons instead of crazy fitness. Would it be convenient to leave those exercises so I can go to Crazy Fitness gym? Does it worth it?

Thanks a lot for your help!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lloyd</p>
<p>Some months I found a Vibraflex gym and I tried it&#8230; I was delighted, they are marvelous machines! But sadly, the gym closed. Know I am looking for something similar. I just found a Crazy Fitness gym. I also tried it and noticed that the machines are kind of different and the vibration do feels different. So, I have some questions:<br />
1) Could you please tell me if Crazy Fitness machines are effective and secure?<br />
2) With vibraflex, we did different exercises with weight lifting, elastic bands,etc., but with crazy fitness you just stand at the machine in different positions&#8230; does that is effective? I can&#8217;t belive that just standing there can help. I expected to feel my muscles hurt a little the day after, but I felt nothing.<br />
3) I have the opportunity to do other kind of exercise, such as body combat and dance lessons instead of crazy fitness. Would it be convenient to leave those exercises so I can go to Crazy Fitness gym? Does it worth it?</p>
<p>Thanks a lot for your help!!</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1233</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 May 2009 00:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joyce...

This article starts off like this...

This article is for all those consumers that say, I have read all the articles, but I am still confused, why cant I buy a great Training platform for only $1000??

http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2009/01/whole-body-vibration-just-like-buying-a-car

Besides that we have about 10 articles on here giving you answers to that exact question. But the most important thing you have to understand is, no matter if its for home use or pro-team sports use, the quality will need to be similar . Maybe not the size or warranty etc..  but the &quot;quality&quot; changes the results.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce&#8230;</p>
<p>This article starts off like this&#8230;</p>
<p>This article is for all those consumers that say, I have read all the articles, but I am still confused, why cant I buy a great Training platform for only $1000??</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2009/01/whole-body-vibration-just-like-buying-a-car" rel="nofollow">http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2009/01/whole-body-vibration-just-like-buying-a-car</a></p>
<p>Besides that we have about 10 articles on here giving you answers to that exact question. But the most important thing you have to understand is, no matter if its for home use or pro-team sports use, the quality will need to be similar . Maybe not the size or warranty etc..  but the &#8220;quality&#8221; changes the results.</p>
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		<title>By: Di Heap</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1203</link>
		<dc:creator>Di Heap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joyce This article might help:

http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce This article might help:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important" rel="nofollow">http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important</a></p>
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		<title>By: Di Heap</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/10/warning-to-home-users-heres-how-you-are-getting-cheated/#comment-1153</link>
		<dc:creator>Di Heap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2009 21:46:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joyce
These articles will help explain about commerical machines:

http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important

http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important

If you mean $1500 US dollars that seems too little for a commercial machine. Is this for one machine in a combination business or do you plan to open a vibration studio?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyce<br />
These articles will help explain about commerical machines:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important" rel="nofollow">http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important" rel="nofollow">http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2008/04/why-buying-a-true-commercial-product-is-important</a></p>
<p>If you mean $1500 US dollars that seems too little for a commercial machine. Is this for one machine in a combination business or do you plan to open a vibration studio?</p>
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