The Rise and Fall of the Vibration Training Industry
This is a focused look at the ups and downs of the Vibration Training industry from the studio concept angle. This article is not intended to do anything other than allow the consumer and potential studio owner to avoid any pitfalls. I hope it is taken in that context.
The Rise…
In late 2003 the world’s first dedicated Vibration Training Studio was conceived and set-up in New Zealand with the machines being made in Europe by a well-known company.
The concept was simple: to allow the consumer to have access to a professional machine being operated and overseen by a professional trainer in non-gym like surroundings. It was hoped in the process Vibration Training would gain a reputation sought after by every workout system ever created.
- It would work.
- It would be safe.
- It would be affordable.
- It did not discriminate.
I mean how hard could that be - take an unknown technology and make it a success where others had failed and make it bigger than big. A harder task was going to be to produce an industry free of the hype of previous popular workouts. It was hoped others would follow and we would have successful studios dotted around the world offering a good service at a good price. I honestly couldn’t see how anyone could fail.
The reality 4 years on is quite different. Some companies have grown, but others have set up fast and gone just as quickly. Some lasting only 6 months or so.
What went wrong in these cases and can it be avoided?
I will break it down into exact problems, keeping in mind some had only a few issues while others had them all.
THE COMPLETE FALL…
One entire chain was set up to fail right from the beginning.
A franchise system was set up under the guise that a studio could be purchased and protection which would be offered in two forms…
(a) Trademark/advertising rights.
(b) Exclusive rights to the machinery in your area.
The Problems
Note: The first is the big one to watch for if planning to operate a business with your primary income being Vibration Training.
(a) The machinery was not full commercial as advertised, it was the lower end of professional at best so the limited lifespan and quality was always going to effect the business long term. Not only does the consumer need to be continuously impressed by the machines performance which is hard to do on a very limited unit, but you simply cannot buy a new machine every so often to replace your stock.
Note: Warranty work was not done quickly so income was lost.
(b) The machines were in fact planned to be sold to anyone that moved despite contracts being signed saying otherwise. So not only could people buy the exact same model but they could also advertise the name as long as you said they “used” the product.
The machines are at present being sold online at half the price the studios paid.
There were other problems as listed below but nothing that could not have been fixed.
THE STUMBLE…
Now the failure of these studios is harder to nail down and I will need to put the smaller issues into their own categories but all are equally important.
THE MACHINES…
These studios had good machines - in fact some had the exact units my own studio network started with and still use at some - others were similar. The machines were at the higher end of the professional bracket so did have a limited lifespan (3yrs+) but that cost could be absorbed if you were successful. You could always buy newer better models as they where released.
The machines were not exactly designed with studio use in mind (more of a quieter professional environment offering the trainer a few too many options for their own good sometimes if really busy) , but besides that no real problems.
THE PROGRAMS…
Now this is where the whole thing gets like a religion. I mean you are either right or wrong but quite often you don’t know you have been led astray until after you get to hell.
Problem
As the exact science for this technology is not understood fully yet the programs are quite often written by those who “believe” one way is better than another. Very little reasons are given sometimes for those beliefs.
Example:
Sometimes research papers are produced to show a vertical height increase in athletes or better stretch reflex at a certain Fq so it is applied to all programs. But what is the best one for weight loss? It is just assumed that this Fq must also be the same for everything.
LESS IS MORE - OR MORE IS MORE ?
These programs were often overtly complicated and long-winded taking your quick workout to something that resembled yoga + using a lawnmower. This was done to cover up the fact the program designers really didn’t understand even the principles of Vibration Training and throwing in other disciplines to make up for their lack of knowledge.
This mistake was even given in poster format to make the problem worse while some companies did one better and just copied others work.
Note: This is similar to copying the dumbest kid in schools homework.
“The risks of this practice outweighed the benefits of Vibration Training”
The Effect on the Customer…
They did not feel safe; not only were they being asked to trust that this new technology was not going to hurt them but the trainers seemed unsure of themselves. And with the programs changing every time they came in (depending on what trainer they got) consumer confidence was always going to end up being an issue.
The only real reason I got for this random behaviour was…
“but the customer will get bored”
This statement is an example of operating out of fear, never a good indication of confidence. The fact is the consumer in general does not like change. They go to the same pub, wear the same thing, and not once have I heard of a gym-goer leaving an aerobics class because they get sick of the steps. THEY GO BECAUSE THEY KNOW ALL THE STEPS.
INDUSTRY SUPPORT…
This one is easy and I will keep it short. There is no way you will survive in this emerging industry unless you have someone behind you that really knows what they are doing. You will need real answers in real time to keep your customers.
The medical questions alone will kill you if you have no-one to call on. The base knowledge needed to run this kind of specialized
business safely is more than most could learn in a lifetime, and no, that is not an exaggeration.
Note: A standard exercise prescription education is not enough.
It has been reported that some studios only received back-up close to the sale with some medical questions never being answered.
PASSION…
The other reason which is even more ambiguous is the motivation behind opening a studio.
I have no illusions that this industry is seen as a cash cow by some, nothing really wrong with that in itself, as long as they
still act with consumer interest there can be no harm done, and in fact we need good business minds to make this work. But some people with just the money in mind jumped in way too soon trying to claim a stake early on thinking it would automatically translate into success later on.
These people did not fully understanding how much hard work and dedication it was going to take to form this industry. Very long days, lots of repeating yourself to the uneducated consumer - and you had better be willing to run on love for a while. Not exactly their strong points.
I personally even advised some to hold off until we had finished all the groundwork but the advice was viewed with suspicion and I was accused of being anti-competitive which is understandable given their own motives.
There are of course other factors involved in not succeeding: bad location, bad management, bad luck etc… but overall if the above is taken seriously you should have a good chance of not repeating others mistakes.
“Competition is important as no-one enjoys watching a one horse race”
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In the future the pure investor will have a place in the Vibration Training studio industry. But at the moment it is definitely not the place for someone looking for immediate or assured returns.
I am hoping it instead attracts those who are dedicated to helping others and are fully prepared to take a business risk like the one represented above.
At the moment I can only equate it to like walking through a minefield , clearing it for those who come behind us.
Scam Alert…
It would seem that the same marketers that plagiarised my work to try and sell cheap Asian machines have now set up their own association in the U.S. and Canada …
The American Vibration Fitness Trainers Association (AVFTA)
To prove they have not learnt their lesson they have again plageriarised mine and Vibrationtraining.nets work to now try and convince people to buy courses and memberships . Charging personal trainers and manufacturors up to $1500 to get information that will be available for free.
“The AVFTA offers … training certification and the HIGHEST ETHICAL STANDARDS. The AVFTA system was developed by a group of leading vibration trainers from the U.S. and Canada.
I assume these are the same folk who had to steal others work to do their job last time .
Where can I sign up ?
And how do I know all this…
VibraSlim …( the past offending company ) was registered under the name eNom Canada Corp through Atjeu Publishing Llc - Texas - Houston.
The new…
American Vibration Fitness Trainers Association (AVFTA)… has been registered under the name Enom .Inc through Atjeu Publishing Llc - Houston - Texas
Greed and stupidity go so well together.
I hope this again highlights the real dangers though of these scammers and shows everybody why communication within the “real” industry must be maintained even though we may be in competition with each other.
Members of the I.V.T.R.B. will be sent a list of the actual people behind this.
- Wendy
September 13th, 2007I found the site to be very informative actually. It has great information and good interaction between users. This site seems to be just you and two others talking to each other about your services and products.
Looks like the pot calling the kettle black to me.
Wendy
- Wayne Campbell
September 13th, 2007Wendy - so you accept that the AVFTA can plageriarise other peoples work, use it to promote themselves and charge people for the privilage of teaching them about information that is someone elses?
Glad you found the website interesting however you didn’t need to go there to find that information - is available elswhere and as mentioned above has been plageriarised
And besides the forum on that site is nothing but an advertising board for one particular brand of machine
Go sign up then.
- MikeyB
September 13th, 2007Haha Wendy that site is a joke.
Yes it is informative but it is copy / paste material.
now i agree this site is mainly a few people posting but the posts are quality and without all the crap advertising (a little slips through)
No I do not know anyone on this site so im not just backing up my mates but come on Wendy they could have at least used a thesaurus and changed some of the words I almost feel sorry for them.
It is like they decided to bring a knife to a gun fight.
- MikeyB
September 13th, 2007HAHA,
I saw a good t shirt at the Gym the other night that is similar to waht you just said.“Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight”
but “knife” and “fight” were crossed out with
“MACHETE” AND “SHOP” written underneath them.“DONT BRING A MACHETE TO A GUN SHOP”
(you will only get it if you live in NZ)
not relevant to the topic but it was funny
The symbol that the AVFTA have used is called a Caduceus ( two snakes atop the staff ).
It represents the god of commerce, eloquence, invention, travel and THEFT.
How appropriate.
WiKi says it is associated with Hermes, God of Messengers , patron saint of….
gamblers, thieves, tricksters and alchemists.
So I guess it was the right symbol for them after all.
- W. McNee
September 14th, 2007A message to Wendy ,
alot of us read this site but do not contribute or ask questions as we do not know what to ask. From what I have witnessed this has not been idle chatter and I for one have done some investigating for my own knowledge. Sometimes you learn alot from just sitting back and watching.Very interesting and informative work Mr.Shaw
- martiza
September 15th, 2007Wendy this site even if it is only 1 , 2 or 3 persons talking to each other I have learned a lot from them. Thanks God this site exits and I enjoy reading their comments; they have the experience and knowledge that help us to learn about this industry without any profit. Reading this site helped me to decide which machine to buy and Lloyd has helped me a lot with his advices without any charge. Reading this site helped me to not to make a mistake buying Power Plate. Lloyd is very patient in answering too many questions and giving advices to any one who has a dowbt.
Martiza
- Mike Hair
September 15th, 2007Wow, i have been in this industry for nearly 2 years now and i can not get my head around the lengths people have gone too just to make money, the complete lack of ethics and dishonesty surrounding this industry is frightening.
The AVFTA web site is a joke right?
They have completely copied everything that has already been said and plan on charging unsuspecting members of the public for the info.
This type of stuff makes the IVTRB even more valid.I have once again made the right decision and spent my own money to fly to Auckland, at the moment i am writing this from Lloyd Shaws studio, even though we are in direct competition we still see the need for open communication that way everybody wins.
This is just the beggining of something huge. - MikeyB
September 16th, 2007Hey Mike,
You say you are in competition with Llyod.
Dont you live in Invercargill or something.
That means you would lose a client to yo vibra train only if they fly to wellington which is the closest shop to you.Llyod are you as welcoming to studio owners that are really in direct competition with you? Like 1 km down the rd. as this would probly not be the best business move for you franchise owners if you are giving away the in house secrets you give to them.
- MikeyB
September 16th, 2007Not trying to suggest any wrong doing or anything. You already seem to give away all your knowledge on this site.
I just thought it was funny Mike saying he is in Direct Competition with you. He is in Competition but i wouldnt call it “DIRECT”
What Mike means is he has been planning to open studios through-out N.Z. and Australia all along. So yes he is planning to be in direct competition with me. He comes to Auckland to refine the safety standards I already teach on this site.
My studio owners are forward enough thinking to know why this is so important.
Note: I offered the same help to the NEMES studio just 4 blocks up from my own studio in Auckland last year and Body-Mechanix also in Auckland. Both of whom planned to franchise.
But the offer only stays valid as long as I witness pro-active ethical behaviour. If I hear them trashing other good companies driven soley from anti-competitive marketing , the offer is withdrawn and they are put over the fence.
I encourage all my studio owners to act in the same way.
The marketers behind the AVFTA are still using plageriased material to sell themselves, and have deleted post from various people asking them to explain . This shows a lack of remorse and it can now be deemed as a fully deliberate act.
I can not stress how important it is for anyone reading this to warn others in the industry of these con-artists .
- GregH
September 16th, 2007MikeyB
I have looked, with my wife, at two studios that were for sale. Both were in DIRECT competition to Lloyd as they were both close in distance to his own studio and others of his group. Some lack of finance needed and the state of the businesses deterred us buying but If we had Lloyd offered to help us. He has already provided my wife with a lot of business and industry knowledge. Competition is healthy and even when in competition businesses can help each other and the overall industry by working together, especially by being honest and ethical. Opposing businesses are rarely exactly the same and each will cater for a slightly or even overtly different market share. Lloyd has a lot of knowledge that he freely shares and he only comes down hard on those who promote or endorse inferior products and programs that have minimal, if any, benefits and those that are so bad that they could cause injury to clients or home users.
- MikeyB
September 16th, 2007Agreed GregH
I was unaware that Mike was looking to expand over NZ and into Aussie. I just wanted it clarified that people werent being put wrong if he was just going to have his studio in the south island and say that he was in direct competition with Vibra Train.
Good Luck Mike I wish you well in making some good money from those Aussies to bring back into our economy.
- mike hair
September 16th, 2007Gee thanks MikeyB.
Just to clarify the closet Vibra-Train to me is Dunedin.
- MikeyB
September 17th, 2007sorry mate didnt realise. i didnt see dunedin listed on the vibra trai website.
ill have another look. - MikeyB
September 17th, 2007just looked and your right my mistake.
24 studios now Lloyd. thats a good effort in just a few years.
what type of car you drive now? hahaha.but seriously i only thought you were at about 15 so congratulations
- Di Heap
September 17th, 2007MikeyB
I thought someone would reply but as they haven’t.
Wow, you should see Lloyd’s new MX5!Seriously Mikey. There’s not that much money to be made in an industry that is still growing. Remember that Lloyd has designed his own machines and they are made here in New Zealand, not in China or elsewhere where costs (and quality) can be lower.
Of course he doesn’t have an MX5. If he ever becomes rich from this industry he deserves every cent he makes. He puts in the hours and effort and much of it free of any charge.Isn’t it time you actually went in to the studio to give it a go?
- MikeyB
September 17th, 2007Hey Di.
I actually did.
I tried the Ponsonby Studio. Its a nicely presented studio.
Sarah The young girl working was very nice. She didnt introduce herself however until I asked her her name on my way out.
I think she could have been slightly more informative but it was after 5pm friday night and the end of the week.
I was not told how the machines actually worked my body differently to conventional training. I gave enough prompts to have her tell me why it will benefit me as I said I was a little sore for a weights session the other night but she didnt tell me that i would get the results I am looking for if i started vibration training.
She also didnt tell me what muscles each exercise was targeting. Im not sure if she guessed i would know anyway.
I also asked he why people change machines and whats different between them. She said nothing is different apart from the standard machine has vibrating handles aswell so you can do upper body. Now if the bullet is no different then why was the bullet created? as you can do more exercises on the standard model.
I thought the bullet was a harder machine that is for strength gains and sports training. (this is what i understood off the vibra train site).I did have a great workout however. But I did not fatique as much as i do in my normal workouts on the VibroGym. The press up got hard at 50 sec (normal for me) The Hover normally makes my abs feel like they will explode but they didnt but muc at all on the bullet. and normall the burn in my quads during squats is intense at about 45 sec but I only got this when doing the superman squat at about 75 seconds.
After saying this though the studio was very nice and approachable and Sarah had a smile on her face the whole time which was nice.
I think I will be sticking to The VibroGym however for 2 reasons. I like to add more sports specific exercises to my training and My best friend of 10 years owns the studio.
- MikeyB
September 17th, 2007By the way he is starting a case study on himself with vibration training for 6 months 3 times a week.
He is taking a Before shot 2moro.
But he started his training last week. (his parents borrowed his camera to go overseas and he only just got it back)
He has stopped the gym completely but will still be running 4 - 5 times a week because he wants to get back into competitive distance running again.
Every 4 weeks he will join me in the gym and do strength tests. Bench Press 1RM and Barbell Squat 1RM
his 1st test was last wednesday.
75kgs body weight
Bench Press 1RM = 77.5kgs
Squat 1RM = 130kgshe his hoping to drop to 70kgs in 6 months (mainly from running) but to gain 15% strength just from WBV.
We are not too sure if this is possible btu it will be good to see.
If he does he will be doing
Bench Press 1RM = 90kgs
Squat 1RM = 150kgsi will keep you posted with his results. Im only joining him 2 times a week on WBV i like the gym too much. hahaha
- Di Heap
September 18th, 2007Oh MikeyB, You’ve disappointed me! I wanted to see you try out the big sports model at Victoria St Studio. From reading these posts I realise you work out so while the regular machines will definitely benefit you and are all that anyone needs to build muscle tone and overall fitness, there’s two other models that have greater overall force and as you are local you could try them. They would have kicked you hard and are designed mostly for athletes use. Not that I would have been in the studio unless you’d let me know when you’d be there but I would have gladly rushed down there to see you “cry”.
Your friend’s case study sounds interesting. If he’s an endurance runner he might not see the 15% strength gain but I’ll be interested in his results. I’d probably bet that you gain more muscle power with your twice weekly sessions than he does 3x week plus running. It wouldn’t be fair to compare though as I guess you’ll keep up weight training. If he owns the studio how does his new 3x weekly program differ from he’s been doing?
- Di Heap
September 18th, 2007My partner is also a long distance runner and he gained huge quad muscles from using the big sports model once, sometimes twice a week. He was not pleased as he wasn’t running often and when he did he felt that he was slowed by having bigger legs. Now he still uses the sports model but he runs very often as he’s in serious training and he finds the balance of Vibration Training and Running to offset each other well. Yesterday he came home praising Vibration Training for giving him excellent strength and endurance, after a … 28km …run. Crazy? well I think so as he’d only planned to go to about 16km but he didn’t have any difficulty so he just kept going, he told me.
The Bullet you used was a required force 2 unit. It is designed for the average user as remember we are targeting the 90% of the population that does not exercise so do not push people first time around.
I would suggest you are probably on 4mm 40hz already on the Vibro-Gym and need top go to a required force 2.5 or 3 to be challanged.
As for the info part , I tell most of our trainers to not act like salespeople , concentrate on correct posture/safety and the customers “experience” instead.
If they come back we have plenty of time to educate them .
- MikeyB
September 18th, 2007Thanks Lloyd. I just wasnt sure why they are different. You havent told me. Why are they different?
Di, The differences in his training now is that he will not be going to the gym 2 - 3 times a week aswell doing power training. He used to do a workout that was mainly ab based and differed quite a bit from the programmes he give his clients (the general population) and because he is finishing his Personal Training Quals he was in the gym with me doing weights.
Now as hes been back running for about 3 months consistantly his focus has gone from the gym (even though he loves it) and to losing a bit of weight. This just happened to be a good timing to keep up resistance training with only just WBV. he is now doing programmes that are about what he would write an intermediate - advanced client. The only difference is that he is doing 2 sets of press ups one at the start and one at the end as he is testing his Bench press every 4 weeks.
He was an elite distance runner but hasnt ran for 3 years. ran 1hr 15 min for the kerikeri half marathon at 19 years old and also represented NZ on the track at world under 18 Champs in the 2km steeplechase.
To let you know where he is at now he will be lucky to break 1hr 30 min for a half marathon. No I have not released the exact difference in the units , I will in the future when there is a better level of education around. At the moment my strict programs allow for the safe use of the machines and thats my main concern.
- Di Heap
September 18th, 2007MikeyB
It will interesting to monitor your friend’s progress especially to know how much benefit he gets from WBV training in strength and also if he feels that it’s helping his running. Pls let us know. I guess he’s doing Auckland Marathon end of October.
My partner does not go to the gym at all and almost never uses weights or any other cross training. He’s a runner and all he usually does is run but he’s now convinced that WBV is benefiting his running so that’s his cross training for this season. He will be unlikely to break 90mins in half marathon as he’s a bit older but he will come very close at around 92mins.
WBV is an excellent crosstraining method for running and other very different sports like wresting. It works for all.
- John Weatherly
September 21st, 2007This http://www.avfta.com just seems absurd. They don’t even tell who they are or anything yet on the website. I just can’t understand “why” the exercise field can’t try to be professional? These universities charge students tuition to take “exercise science courses” and the students graduate only to find out the “exercise jobs” are to a large extent filled by people like personal trainers or strength coaches who haven’t even had a basic anatomy course, physiology course etc. And the people that “run” gyms etc. usually have no training either. Then you have organizations like the National Strength & Conditioning Association (NSCA) in a legal battle with the NSCA Cerification Commission. Of note, I have personally called the former Executive Director of the NSCA Certification Commission (Tom Baechle) about ethical issues when Baechle was heading the Certification Commission and Baechle “would never answer a thing.” Mum’s the word. Nobody in the NSCA will ever answer anything either including current NSCA President Lee Brown. And these people like Baechle and Brown are “leading academics” at universities????? It just makes me think the entire area is corrupt at can be!
Hey Lloyd,
you made reference a little hirer up there about a force rating for the machines, how is that # figured out, I train clients with some lineal machines, and I have noticed a difference between the two models, the frequency and amplitude is supposed to be exactly the same, the motors on the heavier machine are bigger, does this effect the “force rating”?- Keith
September 21st, 2007Just a big thank you to some very special people.
I first checked into one of these blogs on the 30th July, 2007. I had seen a Chinese machine in a retail outlet that had been advertised on TV. I was invited to try it and of course the sales assistant turned the Hz way up for maximum effect. (Someone is going to get badly hurt one day)I must however admit the massage effect was quite pleasant. My guardian angel must have been with me that day because as a greenhorn I would have asked them to wrap one for me immediately. As luck would have it they were totally sold out. Just shows how many innocent members of the public are being taken in with very strong marketing.
I started an internet search shortly after and eventually found a blog entitled ‘Choosing a Vibration platform for home’.
The amount of freely given informed advice that I and lots of others received in that blog was an eye opener. After a lot more searching which included Sal Marinello’s deriding of WBV I put my trust, money and gut feeling on one Lloyd Shaw and ended up spending more than 10 times over what I first expected to spend. It was not a decision lightly taken because of the amount involved. My machine is now 1 week old and in my home all the way from the USA endorsed by both Lloyd and a gentleman named Mike Hair. Please bear in mind that neither of them were in anyway profiting from my purchase or their advice.
Mike Hair asked me to e-mail him regarding my purchase as he had brought 2 similar machines into NZ and was willing to advise me on settings.
Now get this. I received a phone call at work from someone who had tried my home and obtained my work number. Hello or Hi said this voice with this funny sounding accent (haha) this is Mike Hair, I’m phoning from New Zealand about the Hypergravity, can you talk? I said yes Mike, since I was about 10 months old.(joke - just in case there are some slow Kiwis out there))
I asked for his number so that I could phone him back as he was paying for this out of his own pocket. He refused and we spoke for at least 20 minutes.
Please people, tell me, how often do you find quality people like this in this world. No monetary rewards no advantage of any kind but they go out of their way out of passion and caring to help people like me who know nothing about this sort of training.
I can tell you now that if it wasn’t for the blogs and the confidence imparted by Lloyd and Mike and others there is no way I would have bought the machine because I was basically alone out there in an Internet universe of misinformation and confusion.
Please also bear in mind that I am South African and notwithstanding the fact that we beat the All Blacks in the 95 world cup and are likely to do the same in France they still shared freely.
So guys take a bow, you deserve it, my compliments to you both.
Oh, and Hi MikeyB I’m on my 3rd session but the 6 pack aint showing yet, I can’t remember if you said it would take 3 sessions or 3 months or 3 years?This should be cross posted all over the WBV blogs out there to open a few half closed eyes and minds.
Josh…..
Yes the motors add weight to the “dynamic mass” of the plate which allows you to form a mass x accel. formula. This is added to the g-force part of the equation to give you a basic magnitude reading.
I have called it a ” required force ” as it refers to the force required by the individual to actively respond to the unit and stay in a given pose.
Keith..
Anytime mate.
John…
If this thing gains as much momentum as I predict , investigating unethical practices and cleaning house will become standard. And full public boycotts of offending individuals will happen.
As I have said before , we expect it from our athletes so we have to front up and lead by example.
- Mike Hair
September 21st, 2007Keith..
Your are welcome.
The more we share about this industry and the saftey guidelines needed the better.
Enjoy your work outs. - Di Heap
September 22nd, 2007Lloyd
In your article above you say that program is either right or wrong and “often you don’t know you have been led astray until after you get to hell.” To prevent this fiery experience
please comment on the following that I have copied from a Guide to WBV Training on another site.The Guide states usage of 3-4 x week with 24hrs between sessions, usage of no more than 10-15mins a day, and correct body positioning on machines. Given that machines vary in type and also effectiveness, those guidelines might be okay but what about:
1. “It is best to workout different areas on different days, do upper body one day and then lower the next. This gives your different muscles at least a 48 hour rest period between sessions.”
This is NOT in any way similar to the program that
you’ve designed and made available which incorporates upper and lower body positions alternately in the one workout. Is there any (good) reason to target upper and lower body on different days and does the type (lineal or pivotal) of machine make any difference?2. “WITH ANY TYPE OF MACHINE (emphasis mine) 5-6 sessions per week of between 20-45 minutes per day may give an initial toning and fat loss effect to the body (5-6 weeks), but over a longer period (2-5 months+) have been known to create health disorders…”
Is this safe at all? Maybe on a lower quality machine or some pivotal machines? They do say ON ANY TYPE OF MACHINE Daily for 5-6 weeks and up to 45 minutes per day? Ouch! There is no way I could do 45 minutes on one day on your machines. Maybe an elite athlete could and maybe for a week? I dunno, But not general public and not daily for 5-6 weeks?
Please comment. I realise that there are many low quality machines that people have bought for home use and they want to get the best use possible from them but SAFETY must be the first consideration, not workout at any cost.
Non of that material is there own , they have just copied random sites and mixed up their info, typical useless/dangerous marketers , but here are the answers that may help clear those points up.
(1) A few programs that have been developed by personal trainers throw in the old “split the body parts up” mentality. They fail to understand the “whole body” part of training on a Vibration Training plate.
(A) Yes the muscles need 48hrs to recover , so splitting up the body seems a good idea.
(b) There is no way of isolating the vibrations to certain body parts so “total body exposure” will happen during every session.
(c) There are 2 reasons we have a break day. They have only accounted for 1.
(2) It was reported to me in 2006 that people could use the Powerplate units for 45mins a day it was so weak. So the cheaper units would be even worse and hence prone to abuse.
- Di Heap
September 22nd, 2007Exactly! My immediate thought on splitting up upper and lower body was… This is called WHOLE Body Vibration. Different muscle groups are targeted by different positions but still the vibrations must continue to pass through the rest of the body so there would be no significant Rest time.
No matter how useless the machine I am concerned that any company or association or group promotes daily use of up to 45 minutes on a WBV machine, even for a limited time period. I’m only a user of this equipment who’s done some research and asked lots of questions but I often recommend WBV to people as part of getting into exercise and fitness and I would be really upset if anyone came back to me and said they’d been told to use it every day WITH ANY TYPE of machine. Any health problems they got that could be in part from over-use of the machine or any wasting of muscle from daily use reflect badly on the recommending person as well as on the company that supplied the machine or studio that provides it.
I know of only one place in my city that promotes daily use of machines (no doubt there are others) and I see this as a money making promotion aimed at those who want weightloss, not caring for the clients. These people (usually women) are the most vulnerable to hormonal changes that could be exaggerated by overuse of WBV. Not to scare anyone off but,
Except for platforms designed specifically for the less mobile or very old people with programs that are specifically designed for daily use, it scares me. No one exercise type does it all and except for elite athletes in specific training, no one runs, swims, weight-trains etc every day!

September 10th, 2007
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