Choosing a Vibration Platform For Home
Recently a user posed the following question:
“I want a machine for home use - domestic. So how do I know what to buy with all the choices out there - do I trust celebrity endorsements?”
In the spirit of this site we will not be mentioning brand names so you will need to still do some homework regarding what to buy. However we will cover some of the things to watch out for as you “tire kick” your way around the net - and
some of the strategies used by marketers to rope you in.
Buying a Vibration Machine For Home
This category is the easiest one to get confused over - mainly down to two reasons.
Marketers are:
- Deliberately blurring the lines between quality of product vs results.
- Playing on your insecurities and isolation.
The home user of a new exercise product is an easy target for both the above reasons - with most companies only too willing to prey on the consumer’s lack of knowledge. To make matters worse the same person will not want to hang around gyms where this type of information is discussed freely. If they are really sensitive about their weight then it may not even be discussed with their friends or family - leaving the media to be solely responsible for any education process.
Note: The more scientific the theory behind the product the easier it is to confuse the consumer.
Marketers of such products and services rely heavily on sketchy reports of famous people using their product or paying someone to pretend (it’s called acting) to use their product - the very people you read about in magazines
and see looking far more fantastic than anybody has a right too. This, in turn, raises your own expectations of what you should look like.
Combine this with the isolated mindset of someone who really does think they are letting themselves down and you have a person almost begging to be taken for a ride.
Essentially the media spend all their time causing you anguish rather than offer to fix it.
So - in steps the “marketers” with their vague promises of getting you the same machine that “so and so” uses, and the attached body (for a good price of course).
Celebrities Use Very Expensive Machines
Now most of the time they are not always outrightly lying. Your favorite celebrity may be doing “Vibration Training” but I can assure you they are not using a model you can afford. And the results on these machines are in direct comparison to the quality of the unit.
How do I know this you say - well firstly I design machines for my company, and secondly I can tell you straight up I know a couple of trainers that personal-train big stars and they have comfirmed what machines are used. I just can’t repeat it.
Note: None of them are under $12,000 U.S.
The fact is “real” stars keep things very quiet. Example: I have an expo soon that is closed to the public, no cameras, no cell phones, invites only. I will be meeting people I am not allowed to talk about. What does that tell you?
All that secrecy and combine that with generic terms like “Vibration Training” or “Vibrating Platform” and the scene is set for misdirection of the facts.
Perfect well known example below….

Madonna looks amazing thanks to $14,000 vibrating plate -by REBECCA CAMBER, Daily Mail, UK July 2006
“With her heavily muscled arms, you would be forgiven for thinking it is the result of a punishing exercise regime at the gym. But it seems the Queen of Pop’s incredible shape is, in part, thanks to the vibrating platform - dubbed the ‘miracle’ machine. The vibrating platform is said to be responsible for the incredible shapes of not only Madonna, but also stars such as Claudia Schiffer and Natalie Imbruglia. But the “miracle” machine doesn’t come cheap - at £6,995 ($14,000 USD) it costs far more than the average annual gym membership. After the muscley 47-year-old Queen of Pop bought the vibrating exercise platform, sales have reportedly soared. And in Harrods, around 20 machines are sold every weekend.”
This article clearly states how much the stars unit cost her. However she had only picked up the unit that week so her figure could not have been contributed to by that exact machine (it was in fact a present for a
friend as she already had a unit at home). Companies will sell you a home machine at a quarter of the price that supposably does the same thing.
Does that sound right to you ?
I mean I myself pay NZ$12,500 to get my smallest entry level unit built for studio use -and I own the factory !! (no you can’t buy one so don’t even ask).
So where does that leave the home user? High and dry you might think… luckily this is not the case. You can get good solid results from a decent quality home model. Combine that with a bit of cardio and diet correction and you will be well on your way. No need to bust a gut - just consistent effort is needed.
A few rules of thumb to help you narrow down the field
- Solid steel (not cheap steel or plastic) if possible.
- Reputable company. If you don’t trust them don’t buy it. Try searching on-line for anything you can find about the company. Trust your instincts. Leave dodgy units from dodgy companies alone - no matter how good the packaging. There will soon be 140 companies marketing to you with similar products. Be patient and choose wisely.
- Ask the seller…
- Where it was made?
- Who made it?
- What it is made of?
- Who designed the program?
If the questions above cannot be answered then walk away. This is your health we are talking about and these should be easy questions for anyone not hiding something to answer.
- Local warranty back-up. Well-known fitness store is best so you have someone real to walk in and talk to.
- Be realistic about your goals. Say if you are purchasing a unit that cost only a few thousand for weight loss (as opposed to a $14,000 U.S. unit) then things may move very slowly. Do not get frustrated, just stick to a good safe program every second day and it will happen. Think about this - you are trying to reverse how many years of abuse? It is not going to
happen overnight is it? So relax and just enjoy the thought you are actually doing something for yourself which is half the battle right? - It will have a limited lifespan.
Worst comes to worst you can always post a question on this site but try and make the question about certain characteristics of the machine rather than the brand name, or
- It may sound like marketing
- A few units are sold under a constantly changing name to confuse consumers. A description is far better to work on.
Happy hunting folks and hope you get what you are looking for - which remember is what you pay for.
Kind regards Lloyd Shaw
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Would you buy any health product for yourself or your loved ones if the manufacturor had to steal others material to try and explain how it worked , and they even get that wrong ?
William ,the fact you cannot even answer a simple question like this is lesson enough.
It is sad the only excuse you give for such behaviour is ….
“then he joins millions of others who have had the same experience, this is not new.”
Really not cool and definitely not Kiwi.
- Di Heap
December 30th, 2007You are still missing a very important point William.
Lloyd does NOT sell his machines to the public so you cannot
“supply my business with his range of equipment for distribution through my agencies”
Take some advice: Learn a lot more about Lloyd Shaw and about his own company also before you try to take him on in a battle about wbv and machine brands. Also, It has not only been the PYC site that plagiarized large sections of the Vibra-Train website, Canadian VibraSlim did also and repeated that mistake on others of their sites.
And now im desperate and evil to boot.
A rebel without a clue.
- Wayne Campbell
December 30th, 2007William, most people reading this site and those that seek Lloyds advise, even when it involves recommending other brands and products, would disagree with you about Loyds motives.
The industry as a whole stands to gain from his drive to gain it credibility by exposing fruadulant and unethical behaviour.
William, you seem to be condoning the taking of matarial written by others and used by unethical companies to mislead the public into buying a product.
That says a lot about your motives.
All the names you are calling Lloyd Shaw - have a look in the mirror before you continue to do so
Wayne…
Williams statements show us we are speaking to a guy who has no idea how a machine works or the dangers of using one incorrectly. He is too lazy to do even the most basic research. But confessed to us he was looking at selling them anyway.
He is the problem. He is the opposite of everything our industry needs or wants.
- Simon
December 30th, 2007Hi Lloyd it’s true, I no nothing about the vibration industry. I am a member of a local gang which had a business involving Crazy Fitness equipment, of course your actions has destroyed our business and hurt our families so we plan to get even with you and your business etc, by whatever means possible.
Oh! by the way we have a mailing list that we choose a name and email address from daily for all correspondence, of course slandering these good peoples names because I used them in our communications, could open a whole new can of worms for you.
You’ve probably seen us around more often lately, and now you know why, we have our eye on you.
I will humour you for a second….
I hope you have alot of friends in alot of places. As I dont know if you have noticed but if I dropped of the face of the earth tommorow the warnings will still continue. I am not the only person with passion .
As for my company it will still go on regardless , as all our owners are individual licence holders and the machines will still be produced and I have written enough articles to keep being published about once a month for the next few years.
I have done enough work to retire tommorrow.
Why take the time to structure my company like this ? Simple , I am a mortician , I expect the worst to happen anytime ,anywhere, and I am determined to let knowledge rule this industry not marketers.
You are not the first to threaten me and you wont be the last.
Good luck and may the best man win.
I really actually think you should send me a thankyou card.
As the only reason any machines where sold is through my efforts. So any money you did make was from my work not your own .
Most people would be gratefull for the run of sales brought on by the demand I created.
No pleasing some.
You know where to find me to deliver the card in person.
P.S. I also like chocolate.
- Wayne Campbell
December 30th, 2007Obviously santa wasn’t kind to this threatening person.
I am a part of the independant infrastructure Lloyd Shaw has built up and will always fight to protect ethical behaviour in this industry, and there are many more in New Zealand and around the world.
Your threats wont stop this.
- Darren
December 30th, 2007This isn’t about your crusade against PYC Lloyd frankly we don’t care about it, but you have interfered with our income, your actions have helped to take food out of our children’s mouths, obviously your problems with plagiarism is more important to you than than the welfare of families affected by your actions, “gee you really are a swell guy”.
You want to win regardless of the cost. Everything has a price to pay.
The crusade will continue whether you are there to fuel it or not, “we don’t care”, we are only concerned with what you have done to us, this is a personal issue between you and us, we feel you have stolen an opportunity from our organization and in turn affected everyone including our children.
The bitterness you harbour, will kill you eventually, it’s probably given you a heart condition.
Tonite more than 1500 members gather for new years eve celebrations and your wish to have your popularity increase is guaranteed, I’ll even mention the chocolates.
We’ll be in touch.
Have a Happy New Year Lloyd
A very large company once put lots of resources into hurting my reputation. They stppoed at nothing , Lawyers , P.I.s , you name it they tried it.
They failed on every level.
Do you know why ? It because I am VERY good at what I do , nothing will change that.
- Adrian
December 30th, 2007You’ve had dealings with us before then, who in the Mongrel Mob do you know.
Dont get alarmed folks….
This guy is just pulling everyones leg. And you want to know how I know. I have friends in very high places and friends in very low places.
I would have been approched long before now if there was even a remote chance they were concerned.
An important thing to note…
Gang associates do not go online to make threats and offer up business connections to threats. To do so brings unwanted attention. Even 13yr olds in South Auckland know that.
- Di Heap
December 30th, 2007Hold on a minute! What’s with the threats because you guys are losing money due to your product being exposed as less useful that it’s made out to be. Maybe if you had a really good quality product to start with you wouldn’t have these problems now.
Complaining that Lloyd’s actions are taking food out of your children’s mouths is just a cop-out for your own bad business ways. You seem to be saying that you are happy to promote and sell massage level machines (promoting them as full wbv machines) and too bad if people that buy them don’t get what they think they’re getting as long as you guys get the many $$$$’s
Di …
Ignore the guy , he is just some marketer that probably now has a container load of cheap Chinese machines he now cant give away.
He has already lost , we have already won.
On another note…
I do not know who you are in real life mate , but I can give you some advice just to keep you safe. What you have just done is dangerous on many levels. Claiming a gang association online in conjunction with threats is just plain stupid.
Do yourself a favour , say it was a joke and walk away.
Your claims about gang affiliations and their link to importing good from China should be noted for 2 reasons…
(a) You just gave the consumer another reason not to trust . Yopu just put a cloud over all importers from Asia
(b) Customs will investigate if informed of your claims. They are always looking for precursors in Asian made goods and take any gang connections very seriously.
My advice again is to recant everything you have just said. Before this gets out of hand.
- Josh Wiebe
December 31st, 2007Bravo Lloyd!
Happy New Year to everyone committed to providing the finest possible health, fitness and wellness services/products.
Optimize in ‘08- iris
December 31st, 2007I have used a Whole body vibration machine at a doctors
office where I received a laser treatment and mesotherapy. The unit was a k-1 Noblerex.
It seems they are sold sort of like a “downline” type method.
I cannot find their specs and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with this machine.
Happy New Year I hope the past conversation shows everybody the type of people we are fighting hard against and that they are a real threat to you.
Sure they start out with the marketing jargon of….
” but just because its cheaper doesnt mean it doesnt work”
But when cornered it boils down to..
” I dont care if they dont work , I just want to make money ”
I used to also think the world owed me a place , but the fact is you have to earn it.
P.S. If my work leads to an early death re my heart stopping or my brain melting one day. Then at least I will hopefully go out leaving something better behind.
- Site Administrator
January 1st, 2008WARNING: Don’t Feed the Trolls!
- RT
January 6th, 2008Hi! This si really an interesting forum and the right one I have been looking for………….
In my gym we have got on trial a Turbosonic WBSV(Whole Body Sonic Wave) Machine and I guess is made in Korea?
I want to know is this vibration training going to benefit people and is it worth investing 20000USD?
It uses Vertical up and down vibrations and claims for weight loss. How does one achieve weight loss or inch loss through this ?
When I read through the material it claims only muscle strengthening.
Can anyone she light on my query please?
Thx
RT
This unit would be right at home in a Physios office but not in a gym.
In my opinion this unit is not a serious training device .
The marketing and programs attached to this machine has also been brought into question by a number of people in the industry and I actually consider them dangerous.
My advice , keep your wallet closed for now.
Read the article below for the theory behind your weight loss question .
http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/01/vibration-training-for-weight-loss
Note I wrote that article after some companies had designed and released models with little understanding of what was involved. That is why the market is floooded with units that do not live up to Vibration Trainings expectations.
- Francesco
January 8th, 2008Lloyd,
I am thinking to buy the ProForm Wellness Vibration Platfom http://www.proformfitness.it/ECommerce/product.aspx?cid=28&pid=101
This machine is advertised as having the following characteristics:
Motor: powerfull spiral vibrationdesign 250 Watt
Frequency: 20-25-30-35-40-45-50 Hz
4 programs (1 Upper Body, 1 Lower Body, 1 Total Body e 1 Abdominal) + 1 manual
Time intervals: 7 from 30″ to 120″
Amplitude: from 1,120mm to 3,825mm (?) some web site give these figures as 1,120mm to 1,91mmWhat do you think of this machine? is it worth spending buying it or it is just a useless piece of equipment? The cost advertised in the websites varies between 600.00 and 800.00 EUROS but it is available at COSTCO in the UK for £350.00.
Thank you for your advice.
It is not a bad little unit , more therapy than training though. I would expect this unit would give you results but only for a limited time before they plateau.
The best way to get value out of such a product is to not soley rely on it for weight loss , but rather make sure it is used in conjunction with other exercises. Even a small amount of weight training would make up for what the machine lacks.
My only concern is the low max Kg rating. 130kg is not very high and I would suspect the machine may slow down and lose any effectiveness at about 80kg .
- HR
January 8th, 2008As a novice, trying to find a decent home-machine that won’t break the bank has been very difficult, so I’m very grateful to have found this site!
Lloyd, and others, do you know anything about the “Mend Your Health” machine sold in the UK for £299 plus delivery at http://www.mendyourhealth.co.uk/index.html ?
It appears to be manufactured by ‘Shanghai Double Wing Fallow Products Co Ltd’ - see:
http://www.shdoublewing.com/cw/gsol/pex/en/cwdesign6//jsp/main.jsp?supplier_id=2008804036468§ion=ProductDetail&product_id=1003094621&prod_idx=0&rand=1199843860616Thanks in advance!
Just a follow up , didnt TurboSonic say its technology was fully patented ” TurboSonic® patented technology “…
But…
http://www.vibrahs.com/features.htm
Isnt it a a bit misleading to say you have taken the time to patent something when you havnt. That implies you where the developer. Makes you wounder what else is not true.
Maybe this would be a good chance for Turbosonic to jump in a explain.
- HR
January 9th, 2008I realise I should give a better explanation of exactly why I want a home vibration plate machine. For further clarification, I’m looking to buy a reasonably priced and version to help me start to get fit, lose some weight, strengthen my muscles and to gain bone density to try to avoid osteoporosis. I need it to be as quiet as feasibly possible.
(I appreciate I will need to do other forms of exercise as well if I am to lose weight!) !) My work is extremely sedentary and hence my lower back suffers from too many hours of being seated either at the computer or in the car.
Unfortunately it is extremely hard to find good information here in the UK or access some of the machines listed in the USA, & NZ forums. There’s a large variety of the cheaper machines (150 to 500 pounds sterling and above..) marketed here for domestic use. The main ones are ‘Crazyfit’, ‘DKN’, ‘Medicarn’, ‘BodySculputre’, ‘BodyTek’, ‘Carl Lewis’, ‘Power Tonic’ etc etc.
From what I’ve read I’m now really scared of my budget forcing me to go for a cheaper machine that will cause me problems rather than help me! My initial excitement about getting a vibration plate machine for at home is diminishing rather swiftly. I’ve no idea if the ‘Mend Your Health’ machine is better than any of the others as the wording at their site would have me believe…
HR…
That unit has been available in China for some time. It is a cheap Pivotal machine and is for therapy only.
If you cannot exceed a budget then at least buy a small Lineal machine , as long as it actually works you will get some of the benifits you are looking for.- HR
January 9th, 2008The advice is much appreciated Lloyd! Are you able to give me the name of any small Lineal machines marketed here in the UK? If not, I’d be really grateful if you could you give me the names of ones sold in NZ or the USA so I can go and look at the specs and investigate further? Thanks again!
- Brad Barron
January 9th, 2008Hello vibrationtraining.net
My name is Brad and I am the owner of Peak Vibe in Auckland. This is my 1st time posting but I have been reading the articles every once and a while as my friend MikeyB keeps me regularly informed.
Unfortunatly business over the last year has been very tough and I am closing down for good with January 18th being my last day.
If anybody on here is looking for a great commercial machine for cheap I would love to hear from you.
I have 3 VibroGym Professionals all in great condition. I am looking to sell them all and this is a great opportunity to expand your studio with the best machine on the market or to get a studio quality machine for your home.
I am taking offers for the machines s you name a price.
you can get hold of me on bradleybarron@gmail.com , or 021661664
I am in Auckland New Zealand.
Regards Brad Barron
- Gary M.
January 9th, 2008Thank you for this wonderful forum I’ve Being racking my brain for sometime know on home brands and was just wondering what anybody thought of the Slim Vibe Vibra pro 5000 thanks in advance G.
Gary M….
This is a decent Pivotal platform. Just make sure that is what you want .
You may want to ask the company about the statement….
” Tri-Planar plate movement is far superior to Oscillating See-Saw plate movement seen in many lighter use models”
it uses to sell it Lineal models. The question you have to ask is what limitation do the cheaper Pivotal models have.
- Mike Hair
January 9th, 2008Hi Brad Barron,
Your statement eludes to the fact you have been in business over a year now and read this forum every once in a while.
How come you have never offered up your opinion or comments or asked any questions?
The first and last time we hear of you is when you want to make a sale?
Any reason why?
Brad…
I must admit I am a bit disappointed your only communication with us has been to sell something.
But I will confirm the machines you are selling are decent good units and are some of the best on the market. Good luck.
A question Brad…
When Peak Vibe first opened they told customers I was uneducated , unsafe and my machines did not work .
Is that still the opinion ?
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December 30th, 2007
Oh! my god, plagiarism now justifies lying, deceiving and you come to Lloyd’s rescue with evidence of the claims he has not substantiated, they seem somewhat thin on the ground.
If he has had copyrighted material copied from his site, then he joins millions of others who have had the same experience, this is not new.
Lloyd’s reaction is interesting he creates a “Hate Blog” and disguises it as forum for information on Vibration Training, the fact he is a manufacturer himself means this Blog has nothing to do with marketing or does it, if using the Blog to direct hatred, influence and beguile people with information that is not true, is he not the quintessential marketer rogue that he warns us to avoid, and lets not forget that promoting his own equipment is the biggest gain for him.
Using the claim that plagiarism justifies his actions he wages a campaign against PYC, but he does so with lies, untrue claims, myths and these are the tools of a desperate person, someone who believes one act of evil deserves the same evil returned, what sort of ugliness is coiled up inside Lloyd, he needs help.
One wrong does not right another wrong, all he is doing is chipping away at his own credibility, I had considered contacting his company to supply my business with his range of equipment for distribution through my agencies, a search using his name led me here.
As a distributor, I ask myself is he the sort of person I would want to do business with, the level of bitterness is out of proportion to the crime PYC may have committed. The fact the claims made by Lloyd against PYC can not be proven, and until proven lack credibility, reflects on Lloyd and his business.
Obviously Lloyd could have plagiarized the PYC site and covered it up with claims of being the victim.