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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-524</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 07:38:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More from Scott Hopson
Director of Power Plate Education and Research

&quot;If you increase amplitude you will add more load...period. If you add more load (intensity) then it is for sure a higher intensity session. Would you feel it more? yes.&quot;

Ok , finally a clear and precise statement from Power Plates top educator, words like &quot;period&quot; and &quot;yes&quot; are a welcome change from &quot; Im confused &quot;

So according to Power Plate higher is harder, now please read the reports below.....


Aleshia Turner
Personal Trainer
(BSpLS); REPS; MBA certified; Ironman competitor; Previous NZ Rowing Training Squad member; Regional Netballer Representative

As a Personal Trainer, I was recently asked to assess the Perceived Exertion level of two unbranded Vibration Machines.  These were the settings and position of both machines...

Both machines were set at 40Hz

One set at 0.7 mm

One set at 4mm

A 110 degree static squat was help for 60 sec. on each platform.

The PE of both levels were: 3/10 for the 4mm machine and 9/10 for the 0.7mm machine.

4mm Unit = I would use this for a beginner and someone that was un-trained maybe looking to start easy and progress further after a couple of weeks of regular training. This way they can progress to the harder level found in the 0.7mm.
 As Progression is a very important component of exercise and working towards gaining results, whether it be fat loss or fitness.  I believe that this level would also be beneficial for rehabilitation of injury in the earlier stages; once again before progressing to the higher, more strenuous level.

0.7mm Unit = I felt a big difference immediately by being on this machine compared to the 4mm.  It was much more strenuous and therefore more suited for the later stages of training - or as a progression from the 4mm Unit.
 This Unit would be beneficial for the more elite or experienced athletes - and of course not just athletes, anyone who is serious about losing FAT and toning up effectively and time efficiently.
  Even as a Personal Trainer myself, I would choose to use this 0.7mm Unit for my training as a more effective option (and to save time) instead of spending the extra time I would need doing weight training.


Teneka Hyndman
Personal Trainer
Les Mills World of Fitness
Specialist in: Injury rehabilitation , Core training ,Strength training ,

Test of Perceived Exertion of 2 Vibration Training devices.

Both machines were set at 40Hz

One set at 0.7 mm

One set at 4mm

A 110 degree static squat was held for 60 sec. on each platform.


(1) What was the Perceived Exertion level on both units ?

- 4mm machine took very little effort to maintain the static squat, I perceived it to be 2/10 difficulty (not difficult at all).
- 0.7mm machine took a lot more effort...  It actually felt more challenging the longer you stayed on the machine.  I perceived this machine to be 7/10 difficulty (challenging).

(2) How does this equate into your understanding as a personal trainer into results for clients ?
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- 4mm machine felt like it was &quot;shaking my fat&quot; and did not feel like a workout at all.
- 0.7mm machine felt like it was stimulating my muscles,  and as time elapsed,  the intensity within my muscles increased,  making the exercise a challenging workout.

Clients would definitely benefit from the 0.7mm machine - more so than the 4mm - as muscles need to be challenged in order for strengthening to occur, or gains in muscle hypertrophy.


Is it my imagination or does that not say the opposite of Scotts Hopsons highly educated opinion ?

Of course I should add that the 0.7mm unit was a specially designed sports model , but according to Power Plate the construction of the machine makes no difference. At least that what they tell athletes.

It would appear that either those trainers know nothing about training and PE , or Power Plate are still lying to the athletic community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More from Scott Hopson<br />
Director of Power Plate Education and Research</p>
<p>&#8220;If you increase amplitude you will add more load&#8230;period. If you add more load (intensity) then it is for sure a higher intensity session. Would you feel it more? yes.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ok , finally a clear and precise statement from Power Plates top educator, words like &#8220;period&#8221; and &#8220;yes&#8221; are a welcome change from &#8221; Im confused &#8221;</p>
<p>So according to Power Plate higher is harder, now please read the reports below&#8230;..</p>
<p>Aleshia Turner<br />
Personal Trainer<br />
(BSpLS); REPS; MBA certified; Ironman competitor; Previous NZ Rowing Training Squad member; Regional Netballer Representative</p>
<p>As a Personal Trainer, I was recently asked to assess the Perceived Exertion level of two unbranded Vibration Machines.  These were the settings and position of both machines&#8230;</p>
<p>Both machines were set at 40Hz</p>
<p>One set at 0.7 mm</p>
<p>One set at 4mm</p>
<p>A 110 degree static squat was help for 60 sec. on each platform.</p>
<p>The PE of both levels were: 3/10 for the 4mm machine and 9/10 for the 0.7mm machine.</p>
<p>4mm Unit = I would use this for a beginner and someone that was un-trained maybe looking to start easy and progress further after a couple of weeks of regular training. This way they can progress to the harder level found in the 0.7mm.<br />
 As Progression is a very important component of exercise and working towards gaining results, whether it be fat loss or fitness.  I believe that this level would also be beneficial for rehabilitation of injury in the earlier stages; once again before progressing to the higher, more strenuous level.</p>
<p>0.7mm Unit = I felt a big difference immediately by being on this machine compared to the 4mm.  It was much more strenuous and therefore more suited for the later stages of training &#8211; or as a progression from the 4mm Unit.<br />
 This Unit would be beneficial for the more elite or experienced athletes &#8211; and of course not just athletes, anyone who is serious about losing FAT and toning up effectively and time efficiently.<br />
  Even as a Personal Trainer myself, I would choose to use this 0.7mm Unit for my training as a more effective option (and to save time) instead of spending the extra time I would need doing weight training.</p>
<p>Teneka Hyndman<br />
Personal Trainer<br />
Les Mills World of Fitness<br />
Specialist in: Injury rehabilitation , Core training ,Strength training ,</p>
<p>Test of Perceived Exertion of 2 Vibration Training devices.</p>
<p>Both machines were set at 40Hz</p>
<p>One set at 0.7 mm</p>
<p>One set at 4mm</p>
<p>A 110 degree static squat was held for 60 sec. on each platform.</p>
<p>(1) What was the Perceived Exertion level on both units ?</p>
<p>- 4mm machine took very little effort to maintain the static squat, I perceived it to be 2/10 difficulty (not difficult at all).<br />
- 0.7mm machine took a lot more effort&#8230;  It actually felt more challenging the longer you stayed on the machine.  I perceived this machine to be 7/10 difficulty (challenging).</p>
<p>(2) How does this equate into your understanding as a personal trainer into results for clients ?<br />
 .<br />
- 4mm machine felt like it was &#8220;shaking my fat&#8221; and did not feel like a workout at all.<br />
- 0.7mm machine felt like it was stimulating my muscles,  and as time elapsed,  the intensity within my muscles increased,  making the exercise a challenging workout.</p>
<p>Clients would definitely benefit from the 0.7mm machine &#8211; more so than the 4mm &#8211; as muscles need to be challenged in order for strengthening to occur, or gains in muscle hypertrophy.</p>
<p>Is it my imagination or does that not say the opposite of Scotts Hopsons highly educated opinion ?</p>
<p>Of course I should add that the 0.7mm unit was a specially designed sports model , but according to Power Plate the construction of the machine makes no difference. At least that what they tell athletes.</p>
<p>It would appear that either those trainers know nothing about training and PE , or Power Plate are still lying to the athletic community.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-523</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 01:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really dont like this kind of thing...

Dr. Marco Cardinale doing a satellite symposium for the European College of Sports Science.

The title of his talk is:
&quot;Vibration in strength training: does it work?&quot;

This is my problem...

The guy has only ever used a couple of test units that I would not rate as studio models let alone sports models. That is not good science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really dont like this kind of thing&#8230;</p>
<p>Dr. Marco Cardinale doing a satellite symposium for the European College of Sports Science.</p>
<p>The title of his talk is:<br />
&#8220;Vibration in strength training: does it work?&#8221;</p>
<p>This is my problem&#8230;</p>
<p>The guy has only ever used a couple of test units that I would not rate as studio models let alone sports models. That is not good science.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-522</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 20:13:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No he did not answer the question , not mine or yours , just did his usual....

 &quot; I cant comment because ......&quot;

He did say first off he would be concerned if that has happened, but as soon as we mentioned it was his company that did it , he clammed up.

Sorry but Scott Hopson is brought and paid for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No he did not answer the question , not mine or yours , just did his usual&#8230;.</p>
<p> &#8221; I cant comment because &#8230;&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>He did say first off he would be concerned if that has happened, but as soon as we mentioned it was his company that did it , he clammed up.</p>
<p>Sorry but Scott Hopson is brought and paid for.</p>
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		<title>By: John Weatherly</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-521</link>
		<dc:creator>John Weatherly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 17:47:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just posted a question about amplitude for Scott H. on the forum at www.coreperformance.com.  We&#039;ll see what he says.  He did answer some things.  He said he was at an international conference on vibration in Chicago that was run/hosted by Power Plate.  How come you weren&#039;t there Lloyd?

This Ace who oversees coreperformance.com said I was starting to repeat myself with my questions to Scott - that they had been answered.  Scott did admit the Marco Cardinale stuff was true but - and maybe I&#039;m missing something - he never did answer the questions about equipment reliability and this negating research results.  Did I miss this?  Did Scott answer questions about equipment reliability testing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just posted a question about amplitude for Scott H. on the forum at <a href="http://www.coreperformance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coreperformance.com</a>.  We&#8217;ll see what he says.  He did answer some things.  He said he was at an international conference on vibration in Chicago that was run/hosted by Power Plate.  How come you weren&#8217;t there Lloyd?</p>
<p>This Ace who oversees coreperformance.com said I was starting to repeat myself with my questions to Scott &#8211; that they had been answered.  Scott did admit the Marco Cardinale stuff was true but &#8211; and maybe I&#8217;m missing something &#8211; he never did answer the questions about equipment reliability and this negating research results.  Did I miss this?  Did Scott answer questions about equipment reliability testing?</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-520</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 01:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he admits there was a problem but it has been addressed and corrected for future tests , that would at least be moving forward on the issue.

But if they deny there was one , but engineering tests show otherwise , it means they are still faulty , Right?

Its either fixed or its not. They cant have it both ways.

Anyway I want to explore this statement by Scott Hopson ....

  &quot;Amplitude is everything....it is gold dust,

He said this at a IHRSA conference in front of hundreds of trainers and coaches. So John can you put that statement up on CP and ask Scott to clarify it first.

We will then tests it .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he admits there was a problem but it has been addressed and corrected for future tests , that would at least be moving forward on the issue.</p>
<p>But if they deny there was one , but engineering tests show otherwise , it means they are still faulty , Right?</p>
<p>Its either fixed or its not. They cant have it both ways.</p>
<p>Anyway I want to explore this statement by Scott Hopson &#8230;.</p>
<p>  &#8220;Amplitude is everything&#8230;.it is gold dust,</p>
<p>He said this at a IHRSA conference in front of hundreds of trainers and coaches. So John can you put that statement up on CP and ask Scott to clarify it first.</p>
<p>We will then tests it .</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-519</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 00:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Scott thinks that by trying to ignore or claim its not relevent it will all go away.

It wont, and the main point of him trying to put himself out there as an expert whose opinion is valid and can be trusted will be questioned if he wont answer straight questions about faulty equipment and hence invalid tests being released by the company he represents.

This is the main question he needs to answer before he can move forward and get some respect from readers....

If the true science of Vibration Training , the positives and negatives can not be discussed due to business &quot;conflict of interests&quot; then why is he on a forum ?

I have contacted David Bazzett-Jones to ask him about the opposite statements given by Scott and what David said on here.

Someone is not telling the truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Scott thinks that by trying to ignore or claim its not relevent it will all go away.</p>
<p>It wont, and the main point of him trying to put himself out there as an expert whose opinion is valid and can be trusted will be questioned if he wont answer straight questions about faulty equipment and hence invalid tests being released by the company he represents.</p>
<p>This is the main question he needs to answer before he can move forward and get some respect from readers&#8230;.</p>
<p>If the true science of Vibration Training , the positives and negatives can not be discussed due to business &#8220;conflict of interests&#8221; then why is he on a forum ?</p>
<p>I have contacted David Bazzett-Jones to ask him about the opposite statements given by Scott and what David said on here.</p>
<p>Someone is not telling the truth.</p>
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		<title>By: John Weatherly</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-518</link>
		<dc:creator>John Weatherly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to hand it to Ace et al. who are redoing the site www.coreperformance.com.  They have a new look and so far have not deleted questions about vibration on the forum.  This tells me something and we&#039;ll really see when they relaunch the site in the fall.  If they keep it open and transparent (but not allowing personal attacks etc.) like they say they are going to do - my hat&#039;s off to them!  Kudos to Ace, the gang at coreperformance.com, and Mark Verstegen et al. so far!

Now, if Scott H., Director of Educaiton for Power Plate, would respond to questions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to hand it to Ace et al. who are redoing the site <a href="http://www.coreperformance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coreperformance.com</a>.  They have a new look and so far have not deleted questions about vibration on the forum.  This tells me something and we&#8217;ll really see when they relaunch the site in the fall.  If they keep it open and transparent (but not allowing personal attacks etc.) like they say they are going to do &#8211; my hat&#8217;s off to them!  Kudos to Ace, the gang at coreperformance.com, and Mark Verstegen et al. so far!</p>
<p>Now, if Scott H., Director of Educaiton for Power Plate, would respond to questions?</p>
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		<title>By: John Weatherly</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Weatherly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, www.coreperformance.com is up (Aug 18) - only the forum where I asked the questions of Scott Hopson is down.  We&#039;ll see if they put the forum back up with my questions to Scott or not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, <a href="http://www.coreperformance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coreperformance.com</a> is up (Aug 18) &#8211; only the forum where I asked the questions of Scott Hopson is down.  We&#8217;ll see if they put the forum back up with my questions to Scott or not?</p>
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		<title>By: John Weatherly</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/03/research-explosive-strength-and-sprint-running/#comment-516</link>
		<dc:creator>John Weatherly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 15:38:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, at the end of last week, I went on the forum at www.coreperformance.com and asked specific questions to Scott Hopson, Director of Education for Power Plate.  I just tried to go on www.coreperformance.com today (Aug 18) and it is down.  Surprise, surprise!  I wonder if this is because they will be relaunching the site or due to Scott not wanting to answer my questions?  If it&#039;s the latter, they certainly are the &quot;dodgy and never a straight answer&quot; company that Lloyd described above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, at the end of last week, I went on the forum at <a href="http://www.coreperformance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coreperformance.com</a> and asked specific questions to Scott Hopson, Director of Education for Power Plate.  I just tried to go on <a href="http://www.coreperformance.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.coreperformance.com</a> today (Aug 18) and it is down.  Surprise, surprise!  I wonder if this is because they will be relaunching the site or due to Scott not wanting to answer my questions?  If it&#8217;s the latter, they certainly are the &#8220;dodgy and never a straight answer&#8221; company that Lloyd described above.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw Vibra-Train</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 00:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It doesnt matter. The damage to ScottHs and Power Plates reputation has been done. Over 1800 visits.

No one was asking questions just watching the fight.

They came out looking like the dodgy , never a straight answer company they are , and banning me just made them look more guilty.

Job done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It doesnt matter. The damage to ScottHs and Power Plates reputation has been done. Over 1800 visits.</p>
<p>No one was asking questions just watching the fight.</p>
<p>They came out looking like the dodgy , never a straight answer company they are , and banning me just made them look more guilty.</p>
<p>Job done.</p>
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