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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-231</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:24:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One of my staff has confirmed though that Clinical Obesity was covered in her high school Phys-ed days ( 4 yrs ago ).

When I was a kid they just made us run around in circles and randomly beat us with hockey sticks.

Character building stuff I tell you. No aggression problems later in life as they predicted. ( twitch twitch )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of my staff has confirmed though that Clinical Obesity was covered in her high school Phys-ed days ( 4 yrs ago ).</p>
<p>When I was a kid they just made us run around in circles and randomly beat us with hockey sticks.</p>
<p>Character building stuff I tell you. No aggression problems later in life as they predicted. ( twitch twitch )</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 11:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burnadette Murphy has asked the only Mark on her course if he was posting on this site , with no answer forthcoming yet .

I hope this was not a case of Identity Fraud.

If so hopefully the real Mark posts a statement on this site to clear up the issue quickly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burnadette Murphy has asked the only Mark on her course if he was posting on this site , with no answer forthcoming yet .</p>
<p>I hope this was not a case of Identity Fraud.</p>
<p>If so hopefully the real Mark posts a statement on this site to clear up the issue quickly.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Feb 2007 23:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting reading through all these comments. Have the people knocking this system even tried Vibration Training? If so, on a regular basis? Alot of the pulling apart of statements made seem irrelevant to me.
While working out on a Vibra-Train machine, or any decent machine, your muscles get activated to a degree of discomfort and sometimes exhaustion. Just like a workout at the gym. But really it&#039;s comparing apples and pears.
Vibration Training is a great way of &quot;exercising&quot;, if you want to call it that, and like any exercise, with a sensible diet and some cardio great results will be made. But you still have to put the effort in.
Part of the problem with Dr Broadbents statements are that she is making them before her research is completed. And from what I have read, her research is covering ground already covered. I&#039;m not really sure what new answers are going to come from her research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting reading through all these comments. Have the people knocking this system even tried Vibration Training? If so, on a regular basis? Alot of the pulling apart of statements made seem irrelevant to me.<br />
While working out on a Vibra-Train machine, or any decent machine, your muscles get activated to a degree of discomfort and sometimes exhaustion. Just like a workout at the gym. But really it&#8217;s comparing apples and pears.<br />
Vibration Training is a great way of &#8220;exercising&#8221;, if you want to call it that, and like any exercise, with a sensible diet and some cardio great results will be made. But you still have to put the effort in.<br />
Part of the problem with Dr Broadbents statements are that she is making them before her research is completed. And from what I have read, her research is covering ground already covered. I&#8217;m not really sure what new answers are going to come from her research.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 09:10:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the readers of this blog...

I believe Marks comments have led us to the heart of our nations health issues.

He is in the 2nd year of an Auckland University coarse ,but has displayed a lack of knowledge surrounding basic health and fitness ideas like..

(1) Therapy VS Training
(2) Clinical Obesity

His lecturer Dr. Bernadette Murphy has confirmed with me only 1 Mark is on that course this year. So confirming his full name and statements will not be an issue.( This is a matter of public record ).

I will be putting in a written request as to why this information is not a part of his curriculum.

I will keep you all posted as to the response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the readers of this blog&#8230;</p>
<p>I believe Marks comments have led us to the heart of our nations health issues.</p>
<p>He is in the 2nd year of an Auckland University coarse ,but has displayed a lack of knowledge surrounding basic health and fitness ideas like..</p>
<p>(1) Therapy VS Training<br />
(2) Clinical Obesity</p>
<p>His lecturer Dr. Bernadette Murphy has confirmed with me only 1 Mark is on that course this year. So confirming his full name and statements will not be an issue.( This is a matter of public record ).</p>
<p>I will be putting in a written request as to why this information is not a part of his curriculum.</p>
<p>I will keep you all posted as to the response.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 06:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note to all...

A question from Mark...

 &quot; whats the weight of a clinically obese person? &quot;

The answer was given by me , that it is a Body-Fat% mark , not a particular weight.

I believe we should be questioning your curriculums validity , as you are now in your second year at uni and dont have access to this information.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note to all&#8230;</p>
<p>A question from Mark&#8230;</p>
<p> &#8221; whats the weight of a clinically obese person? &#8221;</p>
<p>The answer was given by me , that it is a Body-Fat% mark , not a particular weight.</p>
<p>I believe we should be questioning your curriculums validity , as you are now in your second year at uni and dont have access to this information.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all....

I do not look forward to explaining to Mark and his friends how a machines designed to measure energy burn rates during involuntary reflexes works.

As they still seem to be stuck on the basics.

You may have to come to the conclusion that this is just not your thing guy&#039;s.

P.S.
  Mark
  January 8th, 2007

  &quot;I am currently in my first year of a sports science degree at Auckland University and have friends who work in the fitness industry&quot;

So with all your friends and lecturers you had to ask a mortician for help understanding the human body ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all&#8230;.</p>
<p>I do not look forward to explaining to Mark and his friends how a machines designed to measure energy burn rates during involuntary reflexes works.</p>
<p>As they still seem to be stuck on the basics.</p>
<p>You may have to come to the conclusion that this is just not your thing guy&#8217;s.</p>
<p>P.S.<br />
  Mark<br />
  January 8th, 2007</p>
<p>  &#8220;I am currently in my first year of a sports science degree at Auckland University and have friends who work in the fitness industry&#8221;</p>
<p>So with all your friends and lecturers you had to ask a mortician for help understanding the human body ?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:16:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to worry Mark,

Lloyd will refer to you with some other title soon, be corrected then cycle back health pro or student...whatever comes to mind.

What I have a hard time understanding is that the questions you pose are not weird or out of hand.  You would think that they would be BASIC and a prerequisite before these contraptions are released to the public.

I just don&#039;t understand the responses.  Folks, simple factual answers will suffice, and be helpful to all who come to learn about this new training.

Watch, now I&#039;ll be accused of secretly trying to build a competing machine or open up some rival vibration-hut in Auckland.

Thanks anyway for your insightful questions.  I hope the answers will live up to the questioning!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to worry Mark,</p>
<p>Lloyd will refer to you with some other title soon, be corrected then cycle back health pro or student&#8230;whatever comes to mind.</p>
<p>What I have a hard time understanding is that the questions you pose are not weird or out of hand.  You would think that they would be BASIC and a prerequisite before these contraptions are released to the public.</p>
<p>I just don&#8217;t understand the responses.  Folks, simple factual answers will suffice, and be helpful to all who come to learn about this new training.</p>
<p>Watch, now I&#8217;ll be accused of secretly trying to build a competing machine or open up some rival vibration-hut in Auckland.</p>
<p>Thanks anyway for your insightful questions.  I hope the answers will live up to the questioning!</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:03:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry you&#039;ll have to show me the bit where i said i was a health professional...perhaps it&#039;s right next to the entry stating i&#039;m a first year Sport Science student?

The line we are now arguing over is very prominant in alot of Vibra train&#039;s marketing, a little bit of the pot calling the kettle perhaps? so, as we are dealing with the &#039;public&#039; and the word &#039;workout&#039; is a common expression amongst the&#039;public&#039; for an amount of exercises grouped together over the course of a time period, then should we not call this or other forms of exercise a &#039;workout&#039;?? (when dealing with the &#039;public)Back to my question, and regardless of our opinions can you really legitimatley make the claim that a 10 min vibra train session is equivilant to an hour and a half in the gym? Would a member of the &#039;public&#039; really agree with this statement? if not then surley that&#039;s misleading advertising and pretty much equivilant to the crimes other companies have committed and are so slandered for on this website? (not that i condone them)

Mike, again have i ever stated that this form of training does not achieve these results?, after all these results you speak of are the research backed/proven results i have been asking you for, i am wll aware of them thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry you&#8217;ll have to show me the bit where i said i was a health professional&#8230;perhaps it&#8217;s right next to the entry stating i&#8217;m a first year Sport Science student?</p>
<p>The line we are now arguing over is very prominant in alot of Vibra train&#8217;s marketing, a little bit of the pot calling the kettle perhaps? so, as we are dealing with the &#8216;public&#8217; and the word &#8216;workout&#8217; is a common expression amongst the&#8217;public&#8217; for an amount of exercises grouped together over the course of a time period, then should we not call this or other forms of exercise a &#8216;workout&#8217;?? (when dealing with the &#8216;public)Back to my question, and regardless of our opinions can you really legitimatley make the claim that a 10 min vibra train session is equivilant to an hour and a half in the gym? Would a member of the &#8216;public&#8217; really agree with this statement? if not then surley that&#8217;s misleading advertising and pretty much equivilant to the crimes other companies have committed and are so slandered for on this website? (not that i condone them)</p>
<p>Mike, again have i ever stated that this form of training does not achieve these results?, after all these results you speak of are the research backed/proven results i have been asking you for, i am wll aware of them thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Lloyd Shaw</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-223</link>
		<dc:creator>Lloyd Shaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes that could be a problem , exept we write tons of material. In every form. So even the smallest amount of effort by the public will give a clearer indication of what we actually do.

And no &quot; workout &quot; is an island. Not even running on a treadmill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that could be a problem , exept we write tons of material. In every form. So even the smallest amount of effort by the public will give a clearer indication of what we actually do.</p>
<p>And no &#8221; workout &#8221; is an island. Not even running on a treadmill.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacob Braxton</title>
		<link>http://www.vibrationtraining.net/2007/02/why-people-are-skeptical/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacob Braxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Feb 2007 03:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Workout is a bit misleading though. From my reading it more like similar benefits to a weights workout. It would be fair to say that jo public would intrepret this as meaning running on a treadmill or something similar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Workout is a bit misleading though. From my reading it more like similar benefits to a weights workout. It would be fair to say that jo public would intrepret this as meaning running on a treadmill or something similar</p>
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