Which Vibration Machine?
Doc asks:
I am in the process of setting up a weight and life style disease management center. I would appreciate if anybody could help me make a choice out of Galileo and Turbosonic. Please explain why the machine you choose is better. This could mean a lot to me because I have never used any WBV machine. I am really counting on your opinion.
Written by Lloyd Shaw on November 15th, 2006
660 Comments
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- John Weatherly
October 1st, 2008Lloyd,
That’s great they lifted your ban. I hope to see you back on CP in a few weeks. I think Mark Verstegen, Craig Freidman et al. are good people. It’s sad they were mislead by Power Plate.
It will be interesting to see if they do actually lift the ban or try and extend it.
But this point must be made…
Because this form of training is so closely linked to the equipment we use I don’t know how they will keep the subject away from ….
” what’s the best machine to use or trust” ?
None of this equipment is cheap, with the Power Plate at $10,000 USD which I would say puts it at the highest priced training method available, how can questions outside the normal ” how can I stretch my hammies ” not be asked.
If Power Plate cant stand the heat they should not try to cook and leave the kitchen.
- John Weatherly
October 2nd, 2008I agree completely. Power Plate is a sponsor of theirs (at least they still are - hopefully that will change) and probably isn’t happy with the bad exposure they (Power Plate) have received on the coreperformance.com forum. But, Ace (the site administrator) said the site wouldn’t succeed without transparency. We’ll see how much “transparency” they have at coreperformance.com. I still haven’t received a response from a message I sent privately to Ace as of Oct 1. I haven’t checked the site yet today. We’ll see what happens. Is coreperformance.com the real deal or are they just in it for the money?
- jose
October 2nd, 2008Hi there,
A friend of mine told me that she uses the vibration plate to get rid of headaches. She lives in an area where they lack oxygen because of relative high altitude. By puting her head on a plate the pain disapears. What do you think of this practice? Any risks associated to it?
Thanks!
Who in Gods name told them to do that ?
As you can tell by my question , I would not suggest it for to many reasons to say here.
- jose
October 3rd, 2008Lloyd,
Thanks for the reply. I guess she tried it on her own and she is happy with the results and now she is sharing the “good news” with her other friends. If you are aware of a major risk or contraindication I would like to let her know. Unfortunately just by saying that you don´t suggest it, won´t be enough. Maybe you can refer me to a link with more detailed info.Thanks again for your help and this forum dedicated to vibration training.
Jose Scrambled Brains?
I have written an article on this subject as its alot bigger than just a simply answer.
VibroGym Evolution. I got to see this new machine today and it definitly looks good. I’m looking forward to trying it when it’s completely unpacked and I’m allowed to give it a go. Will be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Vibra-Train machines that I regularly use and also the old VibraGym which is an okay machine even though it feels a bit rough.
Initial impressions leave me disappointed though a lot. The platform is exactly the same as the Vibra-Train, looks like it’s been copied! Color and superficial stuff like foot mat is different but the length and the depth are identical - I used a tape measure! Also the Isolators are placed in exactly the same place as the Vibra-Train (different to previous VibroGym and other machines) and attached in the same manner to the hull of the platform.
I know that imitation is a compliment but I’ve been waiting to see this machine and didn’t expect it to be a copy without any reference to Vibra-Train. Oh well, I’ll comment again when I get to try it. Not sure exactly when that will be.
The VibroGym site says “The Evolution will play a central role in training and rehabilitation programmes, especially in hotels, rehabilitation centres, fitness clubs and spa’s.”
Training / fitness clubs? - It doesn’t feel like a sports machine, to me. It may be suitable for the other places as It looks good and the vibration is smooth and gentle.
- Suzie
October 13th, 2008Hi I am opening a toning salon in Ireland, could someone please please tell me which is the best machine for toning the body (one that really works)
thank you Hi Suzie, 3 choices really. Vibra-Train, Vibro-Gym pro, not the evolution, or just click on my name and go to my web site where you can e-mail me direct with regards to the service we provide.
Mike
Hi Suzie
Just to let you know I bought my machines (Hypergravitys) through Mike and Quality Vibes. I would really recommend him and the support package. It is far more thorough than anything I looked at and it is very reassuring to have the back-up. I am so glad I didn’t just have a one or two day training. Happy to talk about my set up here - have a look at my web http://www.resonancevt.co.uk - has number etc on it.- Maria
October 20th, 2008Hello there,
I am planning in installing whole body vibration units in a nursing home destinate to the old folks. Does anyone can tell me where to find studies that supports 70+ demographic/older adult use of WBV. Postural Issues (example: kyphosis)Please send any info that will address vibration patterns for those who have postural challenges. Is WBV good for this type of user? Pacemaker Contraindications?
Are you aware of Sonic Vibration products, and if so, how do they compare to WBV from a result point-of-view I would recommend a Galileo/VibraFlex ( VibraFlex 450 ) machine, its super low profile and precise Pivotal action is well suited for the older population. They have years of medical data to support their units.
http://www.vibraflex.com/products/vibraflex%20450/
Alternatively you could contact MedVibe…
- Maria
October 22nd, 2008Thank you Lloyd,
It´s means that I should get them a pivotal machine instead of vertical vibration.What about diabetes? Do you have studies related to diabetes. Particularly the neuropathy and lack of feeling in the feet. Will it be detrimental in any way? Should be good for the circulation.
Autoimmune Disorders (particularly those with muscular inflammation like myositis)
Think of Vibration Therapy/Training as a kind of physio workout for the elderly. All the same benifits will apply.
As for particular studies , they will come in time but at present not much available. You are a bit ahead of the market.
Does Gallileo have a website? I couldn’t find one doing a quick search - but maybe I didn’t look hard enough!
Scrap that - just found the link here - durr!
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September 30th, 2008
Jose….
Trying to compare Pivotal with Lineal and make sense of it is hard even for the experts.
The Vibro-Gym was the first user friendly nicely presented Lineal unit on the market. And is in the top 5 Pro list.
John….
Right on the button And now you are probably seeing for the first time how they operate without having to take my word for it. They manage to suck in otherwise good people (CP) into their lies and cover ups.
The fact is the answer to that question is going to open up a can of worms for Scott and blow the lid off everything and open up athletes eyes.
My ban is lifted on 10-21-2008, 10:00 AM