The TurboSonic
From the Turbosonic rep:
Why TurboSonic? This machine uses no mechanical moving parts to vibrates the training plate. TurboSonic is powered by a patented amplifier system that causes quiet sonic vibrations. Simply stated - there are no moving parts. No sound. And it’s real precise.
TurboSonic can be adjusted manually from 3Hz to 50Hz and the amplitude can be adjusted from 0 to 100 providing the most fragile user to the most athletic person complete control.
TurboSonic also has 7 pre-set auto modes (each sessions is 10 minutes ) 3 tailored for weight loss and 3 are tailored towards strength training. All modes work the core effectively.
If you ever tried a mechanical vibrations platform, you will be blown away on how natural TurboSonic feels to the body. We highly recommend everyone try a TurboSonic before investing into outdated technology. You will not be disappointed!
57 Comments
- Troy
August 22nd, 2006I am pretty new to all this technology but my wifes cousin just came out to visit from Sweden and new someone who had the TurboSonic one.
She has had Fibromialga for years please forgive the spelling. Long story short she went on the turbosonic everyday she was in here.
The first day after she had gone on it she said that night was the first time in years she had no pain in her legs going to sleep. She also said she thought she was going to overflow the toilet bowl with horrible smelling urine. She went on it everyday after and said she did not have any pain that she normally does.
Anyway thought I would put in my 2 cents. Technology is pretty cool.
- Roger
August 23rd, 2006The Turbosonic sounded great and probably works okay but I called them up and the thing costs….are you ready?
$12,000.00!
Just the tax on that is nearly $1000!
I’m doing pretty well, but theres no way I’m spending that much when there are plenty of professional versions that give the same or better results for less. ($7500 for Hypergravity, $9000 (Powerplate/Vibrogym).
Does anyone have experience with any of the top 3 pro-level plates? I’m close to making a decision and any help would be appreciated.
Roger
- Dana
August 24th, 2006I am shaking my head how “Turbo Sonic” is trying to market their machine as in the same category as whole body vibrations. In fact, NOT ONE, not even ONE single study on whole body vibrations EVER used sonic waves or sounds. They are totally misleading people to beleive that it is the same thing. Now, I am all for sound therapy, but definitely not for confusing the two therapies and this one in particular is lacking in ANY studies. Sound therapy is something entirely different!
On another note, I will say this… every person I personally have to talked to that tried or had a Power Plate then had tried the Hypergravity said that the Hypergravity personal SMALLER model ($3500) was BETTER or the same as the Power Plate Pro Model ($9000).
And they are made of all steel at the lowest price and made in the USA! On a cool “sort of celebrity sighting” note - I happened to be personally there to witness the Prez of Interscope say he tried them all, since money was no object and he bought the Hypergravity.
People should try for themselves differnt versions to see what suites their needs.
- Turbosonic
August 29th, 2006I challenge anyone reading this blog to do a real comparison.
Try to demo each product personally. You will absolutely feel the difference between the Turbosonic and the other machines offered. There is no other like it. TurboSonic is Best in Class! You will immediately feel the difference between sonic vibrations and mechanical vibrations.
And yes, TurboSonic is ideal for therapy and training. This machine can do both!
Demo one and you will see…
- Lloyd Shaw
August 30th, 2006So Turbo-Sonic , you are claiming to have tried ALL units available. As that is the only way you could make such a definitive statement like the above. Thats quit a task.
Prove you are not just another ” marketer ” and name the location you have trialed a Vibra-Train ” Sports Bullet ” in.
And Sandy , why would you voluntarily deal with a company like Power-Plate. Do you know what they have done, and continue to do ?
- Nadine
September 1st, 2006I bought a TurboSonic because it got rid of nearly all my visible cellulite (the stuff you don’t have to pinch the skin to see) after less than two months of using it 10 minutes a day. My legs and arms are also noticeably more fit. Plus I’ve had more energy and I feel happier.
The sonic vibrations are not audible; it’s not sound therapy. But the best part is you can run music or healing sounds through the machine’s speakers so that the body vibrations carry the healing waves throughout your body, moving your fluids to these healing sounds. If anyone knows of Imoto’s water experiments, you’ll understand the incredible potential of this to alter consciousness toward health and balance.
Three out of 4 friends who have tried my machine have had significant results the first time–more energy, less pain, swelling that went away. A female friend tried the highest frequency on full volume and said “Oh my God–it’s orgasmic! Who needs a boyfriend?!!” So it’d seem there’s at least one drawback: this machine isn’t so good for procreation of the species.
An amplifier coil has massive limitation. Ok for use in Therapy ( short term usage ) where those limitations will not be a problem.
But cannot induce a time syn-wave ratio for an anaerobic respose ( needed to change a persons BMR ).- sarah ball
January 24th, 2007I’m with you on this one Lloyd. Turbosonic - Do you have any independent research? Anyone can make claims but research is key.
Sarah…
the research to date on even the oldest units is incomplete and relatively useless to the layman. You have no way of knowing if the tests even took place or what unit was actually used.The Universities involved to date have let everybody down by playing corperate ” hear no eveil , see no evil ” games and not outing those who mis-use its data.
The problems I had getting the photos of the tests run in German Universities in 2002 was like getting blood out of a stone.
- KG
January 24th, 2007Nadine,
I appreciate your comments as to the Turbosonic and its use as a very expensive sex toy.But if someone wants to get a WBV unit to actually train on they should remember that there are a whole lot to choose from where the Turbosonic is made-in China/Taiwan.
Here is just a link to a small number of generic vibe platforms that factorys in China churn out then sell to distributors/marketers who slap their names on and resell.
If you want a pseudo WBV unit to use as a sex-toy or foot massager….by all means go with a dime a dozen chinese make. You Go Girl!
For others that serious about training or therapy and are less tacky and more practical…AVOID
http://www.alibaba.com/countrysearch/TW-suppliers/Vibration_Exerciser.html
Yours in WBV,
KG
- KG
January 24th, 2007Turbosonic?
- Guru021
August 22nd, 2007Any comments about the exposure to magnetic field? Is it very intensive (magnetic field)?
Could it be regarded as a drawback?
Re amplifier coil systems…
Not ideal correct and it would be very strong , but the exposure should be very limited so it would be hard to prove harm. Also shielding would be very easy to do. I have already developed one myself for hospital units.
- Dianne Inman
October 2nd, 2007I have just started a course of TURBOSONIC and up to now have found it fantastic.I feel more toned and have a lot more energy.I am seriously thinking of buying one - can anyone tell me where I can purchase one?I am in the UK
Not a good place to ask that question. TurboSonics dodgy marketing tactics up till this point has seen it basically booted of this forum.
- Pam
December 11th, 2007My eyes blur and hurt after use at my chir. doctor’s office, I feel the positive results discussed, energy, far less pain. Yet is all that bouncing good?
I recently read about horse transporting (I have a horse) and it talked about the neg. effect on the animals, internally, joints, etc. due to bouncing.
Thanks You will find the amplitude is too high or the Fq too low. What unit are you using ?
Your concerns on vibration exposure is valid and most operator follow ISO guidelines. You will find the animals you mention are being exposed to constant vibrations with no control.
I recently trained on the newest Turbosonic machine. I was impressed how I felt after the training session. Blood circulation could be felt in the legs all the way to my head and arms. I have been on several other lineal machines and to compare them, the Turbosonic will have to remain a good therapeutic machine. 25-30 hertz and up the Turbosonic starts to loose amplitude, at the higher ranges the amplitude feel like it is less than 1mm.
I agree the machine operates almost totally silently. And very smooth operation.- SUZEL
January 15th, 2008has anyone had any positive bone density experience with turbosonic? or any other machine?
I have permission to release the following details…
Female Born 1971
Diagnosed with Osteopaenia in LumbarDepartment of Medicine
Auckland University Bone Density Scan on 13/12/2006 showed BMD of 1.070 . 9% below average.Fracture from fall on a boat causes compression fracture in T5, T6, T7. 19/2/2007
Vibration Training + Vibration Therapy on specialized unit with specialized poses. Due to this particular persons personal convictions no bone density drugs where taken.
Note: Re the drugs ,my advice was to follow Doctors orders.
Department Of Medicine
University of Auckland , Bone Density Scan 7/12/2007 showed BMD at 1.136 , and increase of 6.1% on baseline.It still leaves a 3% inprovement just to reach average BMD and take her out of increased risk for fractures.
Note: Using a standard plate may not give similar results and may even be dangerous. This was controlled , supervised and precise program done on a machine designed for this .
But it should be an example of what will be available in time.
The above can be confirmed at my head office if need be. Name will be censored.
- Wayne Campbell
January 19th, 2008Lloyd, the above is an amazing result, all involved must be very pleased.
The lady is very happy and continues her training+therapy.
Her Doctors is 70 , half asleep , and put on her report that she was doing Vibra-Train but still has no idea what it is.
She is trying to get refered to someone a bit more “active”.
The new Evolution Looks interesting.
They claim to have “fixed” the common problems that Turbosonic seems to be plagued with. I talked to the CEO (used to work for turbosonic) and he seemed very nice and dedicated to making this now USA made product higher quality then the Korean Counterpart. But it still has a pricetag of $12,995.
They are just beginning to ship units out, so time will tell if they deliver what they claim.
Clint Bigham in Los Angeles owns a gym with a Galileo Unit, top of the line Powerplate, Pineapple and Turbosonic. With lots of customer feedback, he prefers the Turbosonic first, but complains about the fact it breaks down every six months. Also, he speaks highly of the Pineapple.
bryant
Yes but I can see a big fight coming.
VibroGym Evolution has been released . They wont be happy .
- Di
January 20th, 2008Oops two companies with same machine names.
I see one of the planned Turbosonics is called Evolution BMS - Evolution BMS ™ is a yoga inspired, low profile intelligent vertical vibration platform ideal for joining of Body, Mind and Spirit.
Is this really the way we want to present machines? While I am all for recognising that mind and body are interrelated units I get a bit anti when Spirit is also said to be affected by an exercise machine. Maybe they are meaning it makes the user feel good but it all sounds so 1960’s.
Just like to clarify I did not write the article at the top of this post .
I just got asked if I was a TurboSonic rep. Never noticed it before.
- Judi
February 27th, 2008I used a Turbosonic unit while visiting friends. I was on the machine for 10 minutes and developed visual disturbances which lasted over a week. I have had cataract surgery and have lens implants. I talked with the developer at a trade show and he told me that he had never heard of that type of reaction. He assured me that it was not something that could be related to his machine. I again went on the demo machine for 5 minutes at a low setting and again developed visual issues.Not as severe and lasting a couple of days. I am concerned that people with implants such as pacemakers, artificial knees, hips and of course eye implants/corneal transplants etc. might be at risk.
Turbo-Sonic is not a company we have observed following standard safety practices. In fact quite the opposite.
Eg….They promote high amplitude , lock legged positions .
I think their machine is ok , but they have no idea how to use it.
Note: Even the machines I design could injure people if not used properly.
I have a promotional video where they actually say it works out your “neck and head” better than a treadmill.
I have no idea how you are meant to work out your head ?
I have saved a number of promo vids that I hope are used in court against them in the future..
Eg.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zg5SyZsmcow
Communication with them on this forum only resulted in them marketing their product with no answers given . I would love them to face up to the questions we have.
Judi,
Did you hold same pose for 10 minutes and 5 minutes long on the TURBOSONIC? What pose did you do? Vertical vibration platforms are very effective in transmitting the vibration energy to whole body. If one locks the knees while standing on the vibration platform, the vibration will go all the way up to the head and it is quite unpleasant. Basic rule - NEVER LOCK UP KNEES (meaning no full knee extension). With a knee flex pose like light squat, most people will find the vibration acceptable.
However, it is true that few people who are quite sensitive, they may feel dizzy on a vibration platform even in a proper pose and they may not like it. Just like some people like doing treadmill; some people don’t. Some love Yoga; others don’t.
Concerning safety, SAFETY always comes first in doing exercises or sports especially for ordinary people as we are not chasing for medals or good pay, we just want better health. Vibration Training in general speaking are very safe under good supervision.
People with pace-maker meaning having heart problem. Physical exercises are always contra-indication or precaution to these people. Do not forget Vibration Training is just one of physcial exercises. However, for people with mild to moderate cardio-pathologies, Vibration Training is a comparatively safer exercise because it does not work the heart as heavy as other dynamic exercises as all poses in Vibration Training are static and training duration is short. For a very weak person, one can also do Vibration Training by sitting on a chair and set feet on the platform. It can at least work locally on the lower limbs and it helps to promote circulations. Of course, people with pace-maker should consult doctors before doing exercises.
People with hip, knee replacement or any metal implant, they can benefit from Vibration Training as long as the implant is well bonded. So, only the exerciser’s own doctor or theapist can tell if one is suitable for Vibration Training. I would say if doctor or therapist allows this patient to start resistive exercise, Vibration Training is safe for this person.
A safe and effective vibration training relies on both good hardware and software. Software means knowledge. I cannot comment if TURBOSONIC is a good hardware or not. Certainly, its software part is weak. I watched TURBOSONIC’s demo video from the link that Lloyd provided as above. It suggests TURBOSONIC can do facial massage. I can only say “very creative”. It inspires me to think of added value to a vibration training machine, how about putting a basin of water on the platform, put our clothes in and let the mechanical wave to wash the clothes; or to tenderize a piece of raw steak with the vibration platform before cooking…… Hello guys, please do not turn Vibration Training into a joke.
TC
Any hyper gravity users out there. I’ like to hear some pros and cons.
- Bob Lovelace
March 26th, 2008I am a 40 year old man who has a very high metabolism. Gaining weight has always been a problem for me. I heard about the hypergravity machine and decided to do the three free trials at Simple Body Concepts in Red Deer. After going three times, I felt like getting a 1 year membership. The machine is very comfortable to use, and I feel like my muscels are really being worked. I have been going now for 9 weeks and my muscels are growing, my calves,tricepts, quads,lats,chest, everything. It takes 10 minutes each time I go. I also take a suppliment called quick mass, and I have gained 16 pounds of muscel so far,it is amazing and I recomend it to anyone who is tring to better themselves healthwise. The one thing that hyper gravity does not do is cardio, but jogging or swimming can do that.
No viral marketing guys.
Talk about the specs of a machine , not just the name.
- KG
March 26th, 2008I was wondering about the Hypergravity accessory called the “Vibro Stepper”??
It is a stepper that apparently fits their platform.
My question is:
Is doing this sort of stepping while on the plate(assuming it is secured snugly which I do) advantageous? Any drawbacks?Lloyd- have you considered such an accessory- Would’nt the moving of the stepping motion-even though secured-
negate the effects of the vibration???It looks interesting-just never seen nor heard of such an application.
- KG
March 26th, 2008Here is the link for that accessory I spoke of above:
It does not fit into my theory of how Vibration Training works best. I require a relaxed static pose to allow the muscle to come under pressure , then none at all , completing the stretch reflex cycle.
Any deliberate movement contradicts this by placing a constant electrical charge into the muscle .
I had thought of applying a stepper on vibration platform but never put it in practice as HYPERGRAVITY do.
I had that idea because WBV is not CV training and my centre offers only WBV and I do not have intention to install other exercising equipments like treadmill. I am devoted to promote and practice WBV but not interested in running a fitness gym. In theory, we can tell our clients to go to other gyms for CV training after doing WBV. In practice, it is very impractical asking someone to go to two different places to complete a fitness training program.
My idea would be letting an exerciser to do a standard WBV program for stength training. After the WBV, let the exerciser to do the stepper on vibration platform as a CV exercise. I would believe the vibration could enhance the effect of stepping exercise.
I guess HYPERGRAVITY could be thinking the same as I did.
I have not put this idea in practice for two reasons:
1) Most steppers are China-made cheap ones. I have doubt if they could stand the impact of the vibration.
2) Safety concern. Since the stepper is not fixed on the vibration platform, it may move and cause danger to the exerciser.
If the VibroStepper of HYPERGRAVITY can be fixed on its platform, it is worth a test on its effect for CV training.
TC
August 18th, 2006
TurboSonic,
It claims to reduce:
* Pain
* Stress
* Fatigue
* Cortisol
* Fat & cellulite
Wow! That is impressive. I’m specifically interested in fat and cellulite reduction. I just have one question. Does it come with 6-minutes abs roller?