Power Plate Experiences
Janene writes:
I am currently using this system and have been for the last 5 months. I can tell you that it is not as simple as “just standing on a vibrating machine” any more than weight training is about “holding onto some heavy things”. You do have to put in the effort, like any exercise the effort you put in determines the results, it is far from a miracle treatment and is certainly not a scam.
I have found that for the time involved (15-30 mins 3 times a week) it is far more effective than doing free weights. I have built up my muscle strength, toned up and lost about 12 kilos since I started using Power Plate - I recommend it to anyone and everyone!!
Sandra writes:
I only have good things to say about the Power Plate. Am taking a 10 session course twice a week. I used the Power Plate (vibro gym) four times (30 secs at 30mz for ten minutes of training). Measured myself before sessions since I didn’t believe all the talk about it either. After four times (two weeks) I lost two inches in my bust, 3 1/2 inches in my waist, 1 inch in my hips and 2 inches off both thighs. The machine is absolutely wonderful.
The best thing is that you feel so great afterwards. You get a rush that makes you feel full or energy for days. Have bad knees and shoulders and this machine makes working out so great. You get a fantastic workout and don’t hurt your joints. You are a little sore after the workout and you know you have used muscles that you haven’t used in a while.
Jim writes:
First of all the cost for a Power-Plate is rather high, $9250 US, and there are numerous cheaper copies out there. The operative word is CHEAPER, in all aspects of the term. The research touted by other units is based (and copied) on research done by Power-Plate.
You have read the successes posted by satisfied users. Believe it! My wife has used the Power-Plate for 3 months and has reduced cellulite, basically eliminated varicose veins and toned-up to boot.
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Power Plate are releasing some upgrades to older products.
(1) A sports model “designed for athletes needs”
(2) Variations of 1hz settings on their units.
This goes against everything they have been saying over the last 4 years.
(1) Brings up the question of what they have been selling athletes to date. Machines they knew were not designed for athletes needs ?
Considering they made such a fuss about how many athletic teams use their machines , are they going to now apologise for misleading them this entire time.
Note: Power Plate management had been on other companies sports units , so fully understood the difference in the product they sold and what it should feel like.
(2) That their entire teachings to date about only needing 30 , 35 , 40 & 50 Hz was incorrect . Was it all just a lie or has it taken them 4 years to agree with other companies.
Thats the problem with pretending you are a leader in your field , you end up following others who have been doing the above for years .
Power Plate once again prove they are just cheap imitators of other peoples ideas and products.
But at least with comments like this….
“The unit comes complete with a heavy-duty protective travel case, designed to allow sports teams to conveniently bring the pro5 High Performance on the road.”
We know its still a lightweight cheap unit. I could not imagine getting a team to shift a real sports unit let alone take it on tour with them.
Power Plate news….
I have been contacted by a legal firm here in N.Z. who are looking for Power Plate management and staff in regards to a fraud case. It sounds serious and from what I gather is being placed on behalf of a medical company.
I will keep you updated.
Medical device….?
It seems Power Plates claim of being a Class 1 MDD device is again another attempt to mislead the public. Class 1 is only for non-electrical supports , such as a bed or walking frame. It has to be a Class 2 at least to be electrical.
So you can have a Power Plate , you just cant plug it in ?
- Tim
May 21st, 2008My mother´s Power Plate moves on the floor when “on”. Is this normal for a vibrational platform? Normal for a Power Plate? I heard from someone that there is something wrong if that happens and it sounds logical to me…
It is normal for some home units to move a bit if on a smooth floor or carpet , no real problem.
A rubber mat usually stops this.
Power Plate in N.Z. liquidated owing $260,346.40.
Thats over a quarter of a million dollars other people are out of pocket.
This is a small country of only 4 million so thats alot of money. Imagine how much damage will be done to a larger population.
- stephanie soper
June 27th, 20081; I need to hear from people about reduction of BAD cellulite please. (The treatment, if you don’t own a machine is expensive so it is worth the money?)
2; how long treatment do you need for bad cellulite?
3; does it come back afterwards if treatment is stopped?
4; do the ‘home’ smaller machines help as effectively as salon treatment?Thanks
I dont know were you are going but we only charge $15 for the entire workout + cellulite and thats on the big commercial units. I would not call that expensive.
Any more than that and you are being ripped off.
You should see results in about 3 sessions but the ongoing reduction speed seems to be individual to the person. You will find diet and other things play a big part in that. As cellulite is only normal fat stored in an area that is very visable thanks to features in the skin of females. Sorry , No timeline can be given.
It will come back if you stop treatment, it is not a cure . Like exercise the effects only last as long as the effort is put in.
A small home machine will help , and they might be as effective as a cheaper pro unit like a Power Plate , but if you want to find something serious you will need to find a high quality Pro unit like a VibroGym , Hypergravity or BodyShaker or go one better with a true commercial machine.
Power Plate on another site has admitted to using Dr Marco Cardinals name without permission to sell machines. They claim of course it was an honest mistake.
But here is a good question, of the dozens of unethical things Power Plate has been caught doing , why have they never made one that loses them money ?
In other words if they were as incompetent as they claim wouldn’t we see random mistakes that make no sense. Instead we see well placed “mistakes” that are all aimed at saving them money and lying to the consumer to gain a sale.
- Tim
July 17th, 2008
and still no reply from NASA… A recent comment from another happy Power Plate customer on a different forum…..
ZOE
Manchester, UK Monday
I agree with you Lloyd Shaw that Power-Plate is not a very honest company. Everyone should look twice at their products before paying a lot of money for their plastic machines. Stay away and do your research before you buy.
I will look at Vibrogym as I heard a number of good things about their products and sue Power-Plate for fraud.
Power Plate has the most dishonest distributors in Russia. The Clients pay for the most expensive machine, but get instead the cheaper version for the high price. The whole company is a fraud and the marketing directors and associates are not professionals at all. Can someone tell me what business degrees the management has at this company? Anyone with superior education, such as MBAs in finance/marketing or with knowledge of conducting due diligence?
It seems to me that the people that answer the phone when calling this company and having to deal with are just kids. Can anyone tell me if the higher management is made of more mature, educated, business experienced people? Please help if you can. Thanks.
ZOE
Russia- Yvonne
August 6th, 2008Hi Lloyd, I’ve read through this site and first would like to congratulate you on your battle with Power Plate, I’ve wanted a ‘Power Plate’ for a couple of years and yesterday my Husband went to the sports shop and bought a make ‘Qingdao power plate’it’s from China, bless him, and it was delivered this morning as a suprise, i was very happy and came straight on the internet to check how to use it properly and what’s the best poses to use and i’m now really worried that the machine he bought is sub standard and may be bad for us, can you enlighten me on this as i’m worried about telling my hubbie and upsetting him as he’s so pleased with the suprise for me
Dont panic , every machine can be used safely , its just the lack of education and over promises that come with the cheaper units that worries us.
Is it this unit from Qingdao Rich Co. Ltd , China ?
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/11950474/Vibration_Machine.html
- Yvonne
August 6th, 2008Hi Lloyd, Thanks for the reply, I’m not sure all I know is the company name is Qingdao and it’s from China and the brand No.is RP-6100 and on the plate at the back of the unit the year is 2007(we have a brocher but it has no address on it at all. I’ve got some really good tips on how to use it and the exercises from your web site so not worried about that but was just worried about the cheaper machines giving wrong vibrations(sounds stupid but hope you know what i mean), also if the unit’s no good is it worth using it as finding the time to exercise is hard enough, i’ll still use the treadmill and do yoga but the idea of this machine as an added extra seems a great idea. look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks again
Yvonne - Yvonne
August 6th, 2008Hi Lloyd, sorry just checked the web site you posted yes it is the same just the model number is different on the site it is RP6000 and mine is RP6100
Thanks again
Look forward to hearing from you
Yvonne Either your husband is smart or lucky. You got a half decent home unit there. You should get some decent results.
Where are you, and how did he get it , and how much ?
For those of you out there thinking maybe Power Plate have cleaned up their act , here is proof they have not…..
Mark Minter , Managing Director of Power Plate has recently signed a statement ( 12/6/2008 ) basically saying that he believes……
(1) Their machines have never had any problems with not running to their advertised specs , and everyone else is lying including “apparent” technicians that performed the tests .
(2) If their machines do not work as advertised for some reason then that’s Ok by Power Plate standards.
(3) Power Plate are allowed as a “right” to use other companies and machines test results to sell their products.
(4) They deny swapping photos on research reports and “if they did” they do not believe this to be dishonest.
(5) It was not dishonest to use Dr Marco Cardinales name without permission.
(6) They deny tricking a disabled person to do an advertising shot for them , and this person never complained or called then “unscrupulous marketers “. Everyone is lying.
But “if they did” its not dishonest.
(7) He then goes on to say that because they can use celebrity endorsements , a disabled persons endorsement does not register in the same “context”.
We can take from the above denials and accusations of other people lying that Power Plate have learnt nothing from their past mistakes. So we must continue to warn the consumer that they are still highly unethical and cant be trusted .
And just in case readers think we are beating Power Plate up again a recent comment from a Judge in Holland about them…
“The blame that must be attached to the directors personally in this matter is so serious that their acts must be qualified as wrongful acts….”
“..justify the conclusion that the financial interests in this case are apparently so large that no means will be left untried and that even the most basic standards of decency may be violated.”
- Yvonne
August 8th, 2008Hi Lloyd, thanks for that I feel much better and will let him know, he’ll be well pleased. We’re British living in Bahrain (Middle East) we paid 400BD which is about $1,000 USD, we buy all our sports equitment from Athletic Trading in Bahrain. I’ve just let David know and he said he’s smart and Lucky :).
Thanks again Lloyd i’ll keep a check on this site to see how things go for you with Power Plate, Good Luck
Yvonne I spend more time helping the good guys and my own company nowdays , but will always take time to kick the bad guys.
Further to Mark Minters statement…..
I have an internal email from 2005 from Mark Minter himself forwarding on information that a problem with the new Power Plate range had been reported.
Instead of fixing the problem he tried to use this information to stop the consumer from ever knowing.
A POWER PLATE service technician changed the motors of an unit and advised the customer NOT to use the lowest frequency, i.e. 25 Hz or the motors could break again.
Didn’t POWER PLATE claim their machines “premium”?
TC
Was it being used in a business or home ?
It is commercial model - pro5.
TC
Sorry, I did not read your question carefully.
The model is Power Plate pro5. The user is a private physiotherapist. The machine was newly installed in the clinic and not heavily used. After 2 or 3 months, the PT noticed the vibration was not constant and called the dealer for service. Power Plate dealer confirmed the problem but it took another 1 or 2 months for the dealer to get the motor replacement.
After service, the service technician advised the PT to avoid using the lowest 25 Hz or the motors could fail.
TC
Follow link and click on ” Product Comparison to see Power Plates new unit.
http://www.powerplate.com/videos/flv/tech_ppdemo/pp_demo.html
They cut the handle bar off and call it progress ?
Now check these out…..
http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/202532588/vibration_machine/showimage.html?
When you start copying the even cheaper Chinese manufacturers you know you’ve run out of ideas.
I would like to make sure consumers around the world know that no part of Power Plate is owned by New Zealanders as they have claimed in advertising.
This is an obvious ploy to make off our countries good reputation.
Ok , Now a researcher has released the actual g-forces the Power Plate machine he used gives out we will look at the figures.
Note: This tests was done unloaded ( no-one on it )it would get worse if tested with someone standing on the plate.
The research lists that the machines set its top setting of 50hz and 4mm . The engineering tests show it ran at 5.83G
But working backwards with certified Vibration Analysis Software from CTC …
(1) If the amplitude was correct at 4mm then it was only running at 32Hz instead of 50Hz ?
(2) If the Hz was correct then it was only running at 1.64mm to get 5.83G , instead of 4mm ?
So it either had lost 36% of its speed or 59% of its amplitude before someone jumped on it. That is even worse than other tests I have seen on the Power Plate that showed it running at only 38Hz on its 50Hz setting.
When I reported this years ago I was accused of tampering with the machine , when other parties including an Olympic sprinter got similar results they ” refused to acknowledge ” them.
I think the time has come for consumers to understand this company…….
(a) Will never be honest in their advertising.
(b) Actually cant build a good machine.
They lack the skills and integrity to do either.
- willie nugent
August 30th, 2008Hi Lloyd,
Am i right in assuming machines that actually have MDD cerification are machines that basically “do as they as they say on the tin” ie. the specifications are true and correct.If this is the case are consumers better of just sticking with these machines, at least they know they are getting a product that has been tested and certified as “true” and not some cheaply made, highly overpriced fraud that even some of the big boys are selling.
RE- Above. To a large degree you are correct , except the MDD certification process has a few issues..
(a) It takes years to get done and can be expensive.
(2) Different classes can mean different values so you can actually cheat.
(3) Its based in Europe.
(4) Only companies wishing to break into the medical market bother to do it.
Thats were the IVTRB is going to step in and ask companies to supply engineering tests to us and then allow a machine to be tested at random to make sure it stays within a certain % of its advertised value. The IVTRB will be funding this. So a company refusing will be considered to be hiding something.
This is the only fair way I believe the smaller quality over quantity companies can compete with the larger ones.
- willie nugent
August 30th, 2008Hi Lloyd,
Can you tell me which cassification applies to high quality home training machines should have.
Also is the IVTRB up and running now and if so when can we expect to see these new standards applied?
Perhaps you might compile a list of machines with MDD classification.Again thanks for all your help. (1) There is no formal classification standard for home machines, at present we tell customers to read our articles and educate themselves to make good choices.
(2) Part of the IVTRB is up and running behind the scenes , but once the website gets launched its services will be available to everyone and votes from members will be taken on tolerance levels for the tests.
- Andrew
September 3rd, 2008Which is best.
The power plate or the fitvibe and why? FitVibe is the better of the 2.
Reasons…
(1) Stiffer hull , so less transference of energy issues , even for a fibro-glass hull.
(2) Made in Germany under strict guidelines by a medical equipment company.
(3) Reliable.
The Power Plate is the opposite of all that.
- Steve Bug
September 4th, 2008Lloyd who was the man who actually started to whole WBV revolution in 99 ? Was it you ?
The event you are referring to was the joint venture between Gus Van Der Meer and Marcel Tamminga in Holland. They produced a more user friendly version of the original Nemes test unit. They launched it as Power Plate.
Marcel being the engineer and Gus being in charge of programs. Gus finally went off to buy his units from China to take Power Plate into a more higher turnover but lower quality company , Marcel is still making the original unit now named Vibro-Gym.
But that was not a “development” or the beginning , just an event in its overall history.
I have done other things to help it be taken seriously.
Steve, your are picking a fight you can’t win. “Never bring a knife to a gun fight”
Steve Bugs idea of a perfect world….
Blog Critic…September 1, 2008 @ 14:04PM — Steve Bug
Hi Lloyd,
I have been following your comments with big interest as well as everyone else’s. You seem to be praising yourself as the man who invented WBV ? Also you are just slagging off all the other brands i.e. Vibro gym, Fitvibe and Power Plate.
You seem to have very good product (just had a look onto your site) but the negative stuff that you write on there just puts people off. You would probably sell many more platforms if you focus on your product and not so much on others ?
3 guesses what Steve does for a living folks…?
- Scott Lausen
September 12th, 2008Steve makes a good point. Just because he’s outnumbered, it doesn’t meant that he’s automatically wrong. A lot of people on here work with/work for/sell vibration equipment so once questions deviate from factual science and use then the conversation becomes a jaded conversation and this a sales forum. Look for info elsewhere folks. Preferably from someone whoe doesn’t work for any of these companies. This stuff is real but don’t be sold! Experience it for yourself.
April 19th, 2008
Yes you would think with the amount of info at peoples finger tips nowdays , con artists would find it hard to lure a victim.
But the proof is here that the information age is still only as good as the person who takes the time to look for answers.
Information is useless without Motivation.