Power Plate Experiences
Janene writes:
I am currently using this system and have been for the last 5 months. I can tell you that it is not as simple as “just standing on a vibrating machine” any more than weight training is about “holding onto some heavy things”. You do have to put in the effort, like any exercise the effort you put in determines the results, it is far from a miracle treatment and is certainly not a scam.
I have found that for the time involved (15-30 mins 3 times a week) it is far more effective than doing free weights. I have built up my muscle strength, toned up and lost about 12 kilos since I started using Power Plate - I recommend it to anyone and everyone!!
Sandra writes:
I only have good things to say about the Power Plate. Am taking a 10 session course twice a week. I used the Power Plate (vibro gym) four times (30 secs at 30mz for ten minutes of training). Measured myself before sessions since I didn’t believe all the talk about it either. After four times (two weeks) I lost two inches in my bust, 3 1/2 inches in my waist, 1 inch in my hips and 2 inches off both thighs. The machine is absolutely wonderful.
The best thing is that you feel so great afterwards. You get a rush that makes you feel full or energy for days. Have bad knees and shoulders and this machine makes working out so great. You get a fantastic workout and don’t hurt your joints. You are a little sore after the workout and you know you have used muscles that you haven’t used in a while.
Jim writes:
First of all the cost for a Power-Plate is rather high, $9250 US, and there are numerous cheaper copies out there. The operative word is CHEAPER, in all aspects of the term. The research touted by other units is based (and copied) on research done by Power-Plate.
You have read the successes posted by satisfied users. Believe it! My wife has used the Power-Plate for 3 months and has reduced cellulite, basically eliminated varicose veins and toned-up to boot.
277 Comments
KG…
Glad to see you now see I wasn’t pulling your leg about Power-Plate. I was pushing it Ha Ha!!( maybe the world first Vibration Training joke ? )
Oh come on folks , im a mortician not a comedian what do you expect ?
- Di
May 7th, 2007The FAQ on some WBV sites states: Due to the nature of vibration training, recovery times after training are greatly reduced when compared to conventional training. Therefore, you can train on the (brandname) every day if you have gradually increased your training intensity are comfortable to do so.
These people are stating that recovery times are so fast that daily training is okay. They do however recommend 3x weekly in another question…
These are In-Studio Machines.Why would anyone want to or need to train every day? An addiction to the “feel good” feeling that WBV produces maybe? Considering WBV as just one aspect of an overall fitness/health plan it must be better to develop other parts on some days eg cardio (walking/exercycle) and on one day a week just rest/watch a movie.
Maybe yet again we are looking straight into the face of marketers rather than health advisers!
—
(sorry Lloyd, your joke is not very vibratory) You hurt my feeling.
- Di
May 7th, 2007Ooops, oh sorry,
A session on a good quality Vibration Training Machine will help you feel better.
By increasing the serotonin content in the brain and enhancing circulation you just might come up with a joke that has more resonance next time
Notice….
The term “Acceleration Training” has NOT been trademarked by Power-Plate as they claim on their website. The term has been used by HyperGravity on their advertising for some time.
Many company names have been Trademarked like Vibro-Gym , PowerPlate ,Vibra-Train etc.. but no generic terms like “Vibration Training” can be trademarked and my lawyers would block any attempt to do so , as I believe these terms should be accessable to everybody , not just larger companies.
- Wayne Campbell
May 17th, 2007PowerPlate seem to have a habit of putting false/misleading information into the public arena
Mr Chris Bantin
75 Manoor Park Drive
Yateley
Hants
GU46 6JZTo whom it may concern,
This is a letter with reference to the articles that Power-Plate have been placing in magazines.
The article seeks to imply that I have been helped by PowerPlate in the past and I am endorsing them for othered disabled people. Both of these implications are false.
Everything about my experiences and the benifits I felt are true but it all relates to the machine now know as the Vibro-Gym and Kevin Barkclay-Webb of the Fitness Lounge in London.
I do believe Vibration training is of tremendous benefit to bisabled people but I do not want them to be misled by unscrupulous marketing.
Yours Truly
Chris BantinThe article/advert was printed in D&CS FITNESS ( Disabled and supportive care mag )
It does imply all the way through the article that Chris Bantin has been helped by Power-Plate and endorses it for everbody.
Now also remember this was the new Chinese built unit that had massive problems from day one. So why would Power-Plate even let a disabled person near an uncalibrated unit let alone target them by pretending someone gained benifit from it’s use.
These people are sick.
Breaking news….
PowerPlate N.Z. Ltd has gone . This off their website.
“Power Plate New Zealand Ltd. is no longer authorised to distribute Power Plate products or represent Power Plate International”
PowerPlate N.Z. Ltd is no longer selling machines . They have been shut down.
PowerPlate has just lost well over half its studios in N.Z. in the last week. The parent company has dissapaired from the scene and now the majority of studios have refused to sign a new contract proposed by PowerPlate Int.
Congratulations to those who had the sense and ethics to stop trading with PowerPlate.
We now welcome those studios into our industry.
As for those who choose to continue to support PowerPlates behaviour. Good luck.
- Mike Hair
August 4th, 2007Like we have said in the past Lloyd, time has a way of revealing the truth!
Part of running a successful enterprise has to do with good ethics something that powerplate have failed to realise and as a consequence are being sued all over the world.
Hopefully the ones that choose not to go with the powerplate label can now move forward and succeed in this industry, as they now have the opportunity to buy decent machines and hopefully change to proper training practises. - Wayne Campbell
August 4th, 2007Power Plates deception continues - advertising their 7 studios in New Zealand, and not explaining what happened to the rest of them.
The ad is all the same sort of marketing hype we have seen before, Flashy with no substance. At the end of the day people see through all the hype and hopefully they are not totally lost to the benifits that properly designed machines and programs can offer them.
Mike I agree with you I hope the studios that have disassociated themselves from the PowerPlate name all the best.
On the PowerPlate issue…
It was once pointed out to me that there are two ways to be the tallest building in town..
(a) Build the tallest building.
(b) Pull all the others down untill you are the only left one standing.
This refered of course to my constant hammering of issues related to PowerPlates complete lack of ethics. Basically accusing me of not being good enough to beat PowerPlate on a level playing field.
But they missed one scenerio.
When a new city is built on the ruins of an old rotten one.
Caught lying again..
Dont these guys ever get sick of being pulled apart and made to look like amatures day after day. I know it would get me down.
A quote from a Powerplate advert in N.Z. , we have a ……” wholly-owned local subsidiary”…… obviously trying to get Kiwis to trust them again.
But on the Companies Office Website…
Director.
MINTER, Mark Clive 11-JUL-2007
224 West Willow Street # 2, Chicago IL 60614, United States Of AmericaShareholder(s)
POWER PLATE INTERNATIONAL LIMITED 9a Utopia Village, 7 Chalcot Road, London Nw1 8lh, United KingdomWhat they thought we would be to dumb to check up on them ?
- power plate
August 14th, 2007i am dissapted with power plate and pulling all funding
- john
August 15th, 2007remove the messages from this idiot
David ……
I just recieved a letter from PowerPlates lawers stating that ” PP did indeed manufacture some 3oo replicas ”
In an erlier comment you said the unit supplied to you was not operating to its adevertised specs. We already have 2 uni reports that repeat that finding. Will you be releasing this with your report as well ?
We need different locations and different testers to show it was not a random mistake and make sure PowerPlate is held accountable.
No explaination was offererd for the non-recall of faulty units sold to the disabled from PowerPlate.
A good example of why machines should not be sold to the public.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TM9NpkKovjc&mode=related&search=power%20plate
- Di Heap
October 9th, 2007wow, that’s scary and stupid! Looking at other movies by the same person, it seems that they are involved in “strongman” activities so it is very irresponsible that they put up that movie which people might try to copy. I’ve also seen another with that guy in it and that was also irresponsible.
About Power-Plate admitting to 300 replica machines. If that’s what they admit to then I wonder how many they actually made that were falsely labeled. Also I read an article somewhere months ago that said they made Euro 1million profit on those replica machines (they cost so little to make compared with previous ones). Shouldn’t buyers be given a refund of part of the purchase price or the machines recalled seeing as they aren’t what they claim to be? I wonder about the current Power-Plate machines and if they are at all okay to use. Looking at another YouTube movie where a spinal Doctor? shows people using a PP machine in very unrecommended dynamic poses..well either the machines are quite useless or that Dr is risking his patients safety (or both!) And other movies show other people doing stupid stunts on Power-Plate machines.. It seems that brand is taken less seriously than others.. Interesting! Even so, as a consumer, even I know that all those weird actions/positions on a machine are unsafe.
Yes, PowerPlates admition of guilt was forced in court so it would be reasonable to expect they had actually done much worse.
Even if the name is dumped at some point , those who hid this problem will still be named.
- MikeyB
October 10th, 2007Di wrote “Looking at another YouTube movie where a spinal Doctor? shows people using a PP machine in very unrecommended dynamic poses..well either the machines are quite useless or that Dr is risking his patients safety (or both!)”
You should really think about what you write Di!
Lloyd is very knowledgable but just because he says a pose isnt recommended does no mean they are bad. Lloyd has his reasons but there is nothing to say that dymanic movements on the machine are bad at all.
these statements just make an open minded person like yourself sound very close minded.
think about it….WBV wasnt made to only be able to do 12 exercise positions was it!And yes the guy doing a Handstand on the machine was dumb but other than the posibility of him falling on his head what makes it unsafe to stand on your hands and not your legs if you have the stenghth? He may be training to be in the circus and walk around for 30 min on his hands!
- mike Hair
October 10th, 2007The problem I see with all these different poses being performed on machines is the public don’t know any better. Yes you are right MikeyB there are dynamic poses that can be done but only under strict supervision and more for athletic purposes. The average joe blogs is so unco that the risks would outweigh the benefits, hell we have enough trouble keeping people in the right posture with a static program, introducing dynamic movements would be a nightmare.
MickyB…
Your statement…
” WBV wasnt made to only be able to do 12 exercise positions was it”
…..is incorrect. The original boxed shaped units were only designed for a group of 19-20yr old athletes with “king” exercises in mind in a static format.
The rest of the poses and movements have been added for various reasons , but I have never heard a good enough one in my opinion to justify the risks to the general population.
Consider this , NOT ONE youtube video I have seen yet on a PowerPlate is being done to the kind of strict standards a beginner should be following. So either 2 things are happening..
(a) All those taking videos are advanced users.
(b) No-one is being trained.
- Di Heap
October 10th, 2007MikeyB
I am aware of the use of dynamic movements for a very small percentage of people and also that a Spinal Dr (I don’t know if he is qualified or not) should know what he’s doing BUT even if he is top qualified in how the spine works he knows very little about Vibration Training if he has people with spinal problems doing dynamic poses on machines - be out of position, move at not exactly the perfect time and more problems could occur than be fixed.
I used to question everything Lloyd said and I’ve spent hundreds of hours finding out for myself what others are saying and doing. I’ve used myself as a guinea-pig and been hurt twice! I’ve been in agony with back pain after just one long session on a machine (not PP) doing all sorts of poses and massages (instead of the 12) in a different studio with a “qualified” instructor. I guess if it was that bad the Spinal Dr’s patients wouldn’t go back but that makes me wonder about the machine and the settings used. Power-Plate was the machines that I would have got if I had gone ahead with buying a company. Several are for sale. I had to overcome my prejudice and prior experience to even consider this. In the end there were other problems so it didn’t matter but bringing myself to work with machines that I know have 3D vibration that can harm the human body just wasn’t going to work for me anyway.
You are an athlete. You can take risks with your body if you choose to and you are aware of those risks. The general public is not. Vibration Training Machines have incredible uses and possibilities for the future are exciting. But when people get hurt they generally blame the Industry not the stupid video they copied or the Instructor that didn’t know what they were doing.
To revisit the issue of restricting the poses at Vibra-Train , consider this…
How has the random ( here is a hundred poses to choose from , go experiment… ) teachings of companies like PowerPlate gone so far. Not good if the clowns on youtube are anything to go by.
How is the public meant to gain confidence in us if we look like we are still trying to figure out how to use these tools ourselves.
“You have to have a start line to run a race”.
- KG
October 11th, 2007I always hear that there are certain dynamic movements that are ok to do for athletic training but are not disclosed. Without the safe-under supervision only- dynamic positions shown, people can follow the static poses posted, or cross their fingers and experiment, as the hand-stand youtube guy showed.
I think that for everyones benefit the dynamic moves should be stated with the -under supervision only- caveat. It’s not just random users that are experimenting in these ways….so called “trainers” freelance as well with the experimentation.
At this rate, I’m just waiting for one of these units to be featured in a porn clip on youtube (: After viewing the handstand….i gotta believe this is next.
I hipped some a former trainer to Lloyd’s guidelines, and he sticks to them…BUT he still plays with dynamic stuff(not sure if it is benign or dangerous) for some of his high-end athletic clients.
So let the public know what’s bad in terms of dynamic stuff and it might save some folks from unfortunate circumstances. Personally, I find the static poses more than enough.
By the way…what ever happened to the Pineapple WBV guy that posted on here? I was wondering how that turned out.
Yours in WBV,
KG
The biggest problem Kg is everyone thinks they are an athlete. The amount of “weekend warriors” that jump around on the machines if given half the chance is scary. Thats why I stopped the practice of letting the trainers make that decision years ago.
The only time any such work is sanctioned now is with my direct say so, and only pre-competition.
I am always of the mind I am asking everyone to follow my lead with the safety programs. So I am also responsable for anything potentially unsafe promoted by me.
- KG
October 12th, 2007I understand your position Lloyd….
I would like to hear from others as to what may be passable in pre-competition as far as dynamic movement on the plate-with all the caveats and denials of responsibility for nut-jobs that want to do it if they are not truly an athlete or have supervision etc.It should make for some exciting blog banter and possibly help some folks that may be trying out their own youtube-esque moves currently and save them from themselves.
But I would like to know from you Lloyd your thoughts on 2 items(other’s comments welcomed):
1)have you seen or heard anything regarding the Pineapple WBV machine? I wondered if anyone had the chance to try it out as it was spoken of frequently on this blog while it was in development.
2)on a scale of 1-10 (10 being the greatest likelihood) and given some of the recent “unique” youtube powerplate usage videos….1-10 the chances of a pp unit showing up on a porn movie.
Have a great weekend y’all….
KG
(1) Pineapple guy has gone quite. His website underwent some changes a while back but since then no movement.
(2) Porn star PP ? Not strong enough to get anyone off. They would need to find a porn star who could act.
Besides … no vibrating handle bars.
- KG
October 12th, 2007Good one Lloyd.
I thought I’d try to inject some levity into the conversation.
I know these are dark times down your way….
ahem….All Blacks. In vibration terms…
The French are the Sybians of rugby.
They F****D us til we WENT.
- Di Heap
October 12th, 2007*Laughs*
The advertising movie of another brand of machine is almost a porn movie
but PP in a porn movie.. I don’t think so! I’ve heard some interesting comments about some positions on Lloyd’s machines though
Local Council Elections Day down here today. I think many people are going to be even more depressed.. Rugby..hmmm, at least we know how to party.
This what you were looking for Kg…
Hi there KG, Lloyd and all,
Driving forward very strongly here with the Pineapple technology, which as we have discussed at length before is certainly a very different style of vibration training as compared to the more hypergravity based approaches current across many units.
1. We have been undergoing extensive research and study with numerous institutions, clinics, and research organisations. To highlight new mechanisms of action the vibration produces. Published articles following the current pilot work will be posted as it becomes available
2. We have been working with a number of elite sports organisations to construct safe, effective and the most efficient training protocols.
3. We have been working with doctors and trainers to create safe, effective and efficient training protocols for other population groups.
4. We are very focussed on immediate general consumer interaction in Southern California, and I would be happy to direct people in this area for demonstration.
This ensures safe, effective and efficient interaction.
We are on track within our development of an infrastructure to build a comprehensive offering that ensures education in the best methods to improve individual wellness and performance.
I look forward to providing further postings in the near future, as further information becomes available.
I am available for comment, thought, inquiry …. @ nick@pineapple.laPS. Any takers for an England v Boks final, and England to turn them over after the pool game debacle
Nick …
While you are here, please explain the
” No set time limit….”
comment on your site. Do you really promote this mentality ?
Hi Lloyd. Thanks for pointing that out - it is perhaps slightly ambigious.
We work with people across a wide spectrum of time-frames. From short exposure less than a minute, up to 20-30 minute duration which may include relaxation activity. These are all specific to goals, and in concert with progression of an individual.- Harvey
October 15th, 2007Lloyd
Re: fitvibe/youtube - not laughed likethat ffor a long time! please tell me its a wind-up?
- Harvey
October 15th, 2007Re: Dynamic movements
Taking from the principles of training core stability etc - Core stability and transversus action etc only becomes functional when you can take transversus/core control into standing and dynamic postures. This has got to then be the same for training in WBV.
However, one must assume that WBV core training must come at the end of the continuum rather than at the beginning! (as seen on Youtube!)
- Harvey
October 15th, 2007Nick
Can you please forward all your research etc - very keen to read it:
May 7th, 2007
My recommendation of every second day is for safety purposes. And is keeping in mind long term exposure. Not a few months use.
This industry has to prove two things to the public yet.
(1) It works
(2) It’s safe.
I am very serious about both. And if my safety angle is not appreciated by all , then so be it.